Did anybody else want to smack that lady for continually hitting that poor Yorkie?? And that one scene where she forced that dog's snout into the wet carpet as if it was the dog's fault? I mean damn! We need to stop bitch on bitch violence!
shareI am glad someone mentioned that awful display of animal abuse. It would have been delightful to see the little dog bite its owner's hand. Maybe it did later, but I couldn't watch the entire movie. Scenes of animals being hit, besides homo sapiens, of course, are fortunately being banned from modern motion pictures.
Where I had to turn off the DVD was when Gary Cooper, playing a sophisticated international bon vivant, arrives late at an orchestra concert, rolls up his program, and peers through it at other members of the audience. What character attribute was that supposed to demonstrate? Developmental disability?
The woman hitting the dog was a bit of unenlightened nonsense. I guess Billy Wilder just wasn't an animal rights person.
As for the rolled up program used as a telescope, I thought that was very amusing. Made me like the guy more. What I didn't like about the character was his "playboyness."
"Loyalty counts. . ." Lucas Buck
Hey back in those days teachers could still smack their students. My Dad had a teacher who threw chalk at his grade fours
sharewho gives a crap? it was just a dog.
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Who thinks that?
Me, for one.
Um. Yeah. Right.
I liked Flannigan's impromptu telescope. Showcased his boredom and also his impishness, despite being an older man.
As for the woman and "bad dog!" . . . well, she didn't wail on the dog as some people do. (I'm involved with several animal rescue groups.) She acted like a wealthy, preoccupied middle-aged woman of those times would. She loves her dog, and the dog is definitely a child substitute, but she all the same she really can't "read" her dog!
How can you say that Rainy_Sunday? Animals are nothing but loving creatures and they only give love to people. I think anyone who mistreats their animals needs help...
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she didn't really hit the dog - just sort of patted him.
I agree it was inappropriate for film made today - but in the 50's, a person disciplining their dog (or child for that matter!) was not condemned.
I work in the film and television industry, so I know that, right up to the 1980s, animals were treated as nothing more than well-trained props, to be used and abused as the producers and director saw fit, just so long as they could get the shot and move on to the next scene.
This poor little dog was trained to bark on command as his owner/trainer stood off-camera, knowing that a treat/reward would be coming if he was a good dog and did as he was told. But instead, this dog was repeatedly smacked on the head (very painful) and the chest area (very delicate muscle tissue) by a complete stranger who kept hissing "Bad dog!" even though it was doing exactly was it was being told to do. Very confusing and psychologically damaging for the dog. I mean, I understand it happened a long time ago and the dog is dead now (so is the actress who was beating him, I'm guessing) but it just goes to show you how far we've come. Nowadays, we have animal rights people on set to make sure that ants and bees aren't killed or treated with indignity.
From one extreme to the other.
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any dumbass could tell the dog wasn't actually barking. it was a sound recorded on top of the track. and its a *beep* dog, not a tissue, you can pat it! it wasnt like it was hurt you *beep* flop
Chuck Norris can sneeze with his eyes open.
"Nowadays, we have animal rights people on set to make sure that ants and bees aren't killed or treated with indignity".
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDIN', RIGHT ?????????????????????????
"Nowadays, we have animal rights people on set to make sure that ants and bees aren't killed or treated with indignity".
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDIN', RIGHT ?????????????????????????
Yes, in the fifties it was perfectly normal to pat the dog. The woman thinks the dog has pissed on the ground and put his nose on the piss to educate him, this was everyday behavior in the fifties. Its a nice comic situation in the film, its not the dogs fault, but everytime the woman thinks it is and "educates" him, its funny.
shareI know! Not only did she keep slapping that poor dog...she kept slapping him *for no reason*! It's almost as if she was impatiently searching for a reason to slap him and say "bad dog!"
God help me, I almost--almost--wanted someone to bust into the room and start slapping her around, saying "Bad old woman! Bad, bad old woman!" while the yorkie jumped up and down barking in approval.
She was mistaken but she did think the dog had peed, that's why she hit it. It showed that she was a spoiled rich woman who thought of her pet as an extension of herself, not a creature deserving of respect. There's a way to discipline animals without hurting them.
shareYeah that did bother me a lot, but EPA wasn't founded until 1970s and this was made during the '50s.
Other than that lady hitting the dog, I liked this movie.
that breaks my heart every time. i really love the movie but those scenes are just horrible and i look away every time, the sound of the yorkie squealing and the hitting is bad enough. i'm baffled they actually went through with the way they did the scenes, it would have been enough to just scold the dog. i just hope they didn't do more than one take of each scene.
shareEspecially since Loulou was reacting normally for a pooch and was much more aware than her owner with the big fanny. That much urine couldn't possibly come out of a tiny Yorkie so that beast must have been quite plowed.
Why ain't you at the garden party you heathen?
All I could think was: that wouldn't have ever happened in today's Hollywood. I thought she was hitting a bit too hard at some point but then again they have a way to fake slaps and punches in movies, I'd like to think she wasn't really hitting him but making it look like she was.
ask the spokesperson, I don't have a brain
Don't forget, this movie was made only a few years after the Nazis were putting people in ovens. Kinda puts it in perspective as to how cruel humans can be and what real suffering is.
Should any 3rd world country choose to go to war with us, I'm afraid we're doomed. I don't condone 'beating' animals or animal cruelty in general but man, the pendulum has swung into the realm of loony-tunes...
Had I been involved in the making of this movie and my opinion counted for anything, I would have voted to skip the dog/rich b*tch part if that matters to anyone. Ever go to 'the rodeo' ? I did..once...never again. Guess I'm somewhere in the middle in terms of 'sensitivity'. The newest ASPCA commercial angers me to distraction - I have to jump for the remote so as to 'mute' asap. Its fashioned after the old time 'for just pennies day you can support this poor, starving child..." 'cept they show dogs/cats striking human like poses.
There are some major differences between humans and animals.Lets keep it in perspective huh ?
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I'm stunned. Two horses in two years--that's one horse per year for those two years, probably no horses in the several years on either side of those two years--and you call that common enough to insinuate that the ringmaster was lying and to demand the ending of all rodeos.
Hysterical much?
There are posters here calling for a little sanity. I second them.
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Physical abuse should be reserved for members of Congress and anyone who votes Republican or Democrat. Oh, and for the NSA, DEA, FBI, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, and the USA.
And the woman hitting the dog.
Jesus - it was a joke. You people have seriously skewed priorities imagining that this is 'animal abuse' and some kind of horrible behavior. Grow up.
"I'll book you. I'll book you on something. I'll find something in the book to book you on."
I would have smacked that annoying stupid dog too!
shareWhat a number of commentators fail to perceive is that Billy Wilder is satirizing (criticism through comedy) the women's treatment of her dog, not condoning it. I am sure Billy knew exactly which of the two would get the audience's sympathies, and if it resulted in people being more patient before disciplining their dogs (their kids, their employees, etc), then he would have felt he succeeded....
shareAll I can add to this is: don't ever watch the Korean comedy Barking Dogs Don't Bite. In that film the main character was throwing dogs off balconies of an apartment complex because they barked too much. lol
shareI assumed that most dogs in movies were specially trained and it never occured to me that the dog was hit hard enough to hurt it. I may be much more disturbed next time I watch the movie.
Life, every now and then, behaves as though it had seen too many bad movies
It wasn't. The dog's owner needs it to bark on cue again for some other movie or TV show. Trust me, he doesn't want to destroy the trust the dog has for him. If it cringed or yelped, the yelp was dubbed by a guy I once knew who was a professional barker. No joking, dogs don't always bark when they need to and paying a barker to bark is cheaper than doing six takes trying to get the dog's timing just right!
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I just saw the movie for the 1st time today and was appalled by what I saw in several scenes involving the Yorkie. So glad to find others who share my view. How could anyone just stand by and watch and accept that as part of the movie? Awful.
shareReally?
I'm vegetarian and all that, and usually pretty sensitive to these types of things in movies... But this was pretty innocuous – she was lightly spanking a dog on the bum – it didn't look very violent, the dog didn't look hurt... and I thought the scene was pretty funny.
my thoughts exactly. i'm actually surprised people felt uncomfortable with that.
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