IMDB Top 250 - Kumonosu-jô (1961) Discussion

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[–] edwartj 14 years ago

I love Kurosawa but are you trying to say the films you listed above aren't worthy of Top 250 status?

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[–] Towelie_Towel 13 years ago

Obviously the Top 250 is a list for the masses and is very much based on current popularity, but it never really pretended to be anything else, and the fact that it has such classics by Chaplin, Kurosawa, Bergman, Renoir and other classic masterpieces just shows that, despite being a list for the masses, it contains some important and very good movies. Also, it's good that list has such variety, it will only help films like these become popular and known by today's generations, and I don't think that's a bad thing.

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[–] enemy_xix 12 years ago

reservoir dogs and seven are amazing films that are every bit as technically proficient, original and aesthetically pleasing as any of kurosawas work. additionally, the number one film on the imdb top 250 is still the godfather which i don't think anyone would argue is there simply for popularity.

ps you forgot to mention the new batman films, the presences of which on the top 250 are far more upsetting than american beauty or life is beautiful.

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[–] ejc15 12 years ago

You don't know anyone who has seen the Godfather? Personally I don't get not liking it, but that is just me and my circle of family and friends, but not to see it, or know anyone who has shocks me.

I understand I may have read your post wrong as you did say it bored you, and then you said you don't know anyone who has seen it. So sorry if I am confused.

By the way, just because a movie is popular doesn't make it bad. Sometimes people do get it correct.

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[–] cwillis_m 12 years ago

Doesn't the number of votes have something to do with movies making the Top 250? So the newer movies make it because they have enough votes and are high rated.

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[–] mjlangenbru 11 years ago

When imdb changed its rating system for the imdb top 250, some of the most beloved movies of all-time suffered as a result. The films below have tremendous scores, but have been bumped from the top 250 because they don't have the newly required sum of 25,000 votes. If you haven't done so already, cast your vote and spread the word to get these deserving films back in the top 250!

The Best Years of Our Lives (1946)
Throne of Blood (1957)
La Grande Illusion (1937)
Les Diaboliques (1955)
Sherlock Jr. (1924)
The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)
Tokyo Story (1953)
Fanny and Alexander (1982)
Come and See (1985)
The Battle of Algiers (1966)
Judgment at Nuremberg (1961)
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927)
Ikiru (1952)
The Wages of Fear (1953)
Seppuku (1962)

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[–] john2344 13 years ago

Yeah, it sure does. My favorite Kurosawa and one of the best Shakespeare adaptations ever. Speaking of which...

http://www.best5everything.com/best5ListPages/shakespeareanfilms22427.php

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[–] Replicant-88 13 years ago

Kumonosu-jô one of the best 4 Kurosawa movies I can put 100 movies should
be in the top 250.

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[–] mjlangenbru 10 years ago

UPDATE
The Best Years of Our Lives (1946) - BACK IN
The Battle of Algiers (1966) - BACK IN
Judgment at Nuremberg (1961) - BACK IN
Les Diaboliques (1955) - BACK IN
Ikiru (1952) - BACK IN
Fanny and Alexander (1982) - BACK IN
Throne of Blood (1957) - Needs 4,000+
La Grande Illusion (1937) - Needs 4,500+
Sherlock Jr. (1924) - Needs 8,500+
The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928) - Needs 5,500+
Tokyo Story (1953) - Needs 7,000+
Come and See (1985) - Needs 6,000+
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927) - Needs 4,500+
The Wages of Fear (1953) - Needs 800+
Seppuku (1962) - Needs 12,000+

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[–] Anonymous-733 10 years ago

Update:
The Wages of Fear (1953) - Back in

Throne of Blood (1957) - Needs 2,700+
La Grande Illusion (1937) - Needs 3,500+
Sherlock Jr. (1924) - Needs 7,700+ (45 minutes long - not long enough for the 250?)
The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928) - Needs 5,000+
Tokyo Story (1953) - Needs 5,500+
Come and See (1985) - Needs 5,000+
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927) - Needs 3,300+
Seppuku (1962) - Needs 10,700+

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[–] TravisLikesSmoothJazz 9 years ago

This might end up on the list. It needs 25 000 ratings. Now it has about 24 000.

I am an *beep* but my friends compensate for that.

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[–] A_Friend_of_Sarah_Connor 9 years ago

Needs about 800 and it'll be a shoe in.

"Some men are coming to kill us. We're gonna kill them first."

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[–] TompaDompa 9 years ago

It looks like it might be on it again soon. It was on the list when the minimum number of votes was changed from 3 000 to 25 000, in July 2012. At the time, it had about 16 600 votes (source: http://www.took.nl/250/history/2012/7/18/compare/full). Just shy of three years later, it has about 24 300.

Anyway, movies with a rating of at least 8.2 that don't have 25 000 votes yet, sorted by number of votes:
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?num_votes=,25000&sort=num_votes,desc&title_type=feature&user_rating=8.2,
As of my writing this, Kumonosu-jô (1957) tops that list.

Don't listen to the negative ones; their arguments are irrational.

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[–] TravisLikesSmoothJazz 9 years ago

It's on 250 now.

I am an *beep* but my friends compensate for that.

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[–] fairy_depp 8 years ago

Ok.. I've just watched this film because it's on the top 250 and I'm trying to work my way through them all. Can someone explain to me what I'm missing because it doesn't seem to be the best Macbeth film I've seen... and it certainly wouldn't be in my list of favourite films. It was clearly not original and I didn't feel that it added any particular depth to the story, I felt it jumped quite quickly from the two main characters being allies to killing one another. I didn't think it was awful but I just don't get why people think of it as one of the greats

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