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Anyone else just not understand it?!



I'm not too terribly familiar with Shakespeare, so I recorded this, as well as Olivier's Hamlet(1948) from a recent TCM screening and watched it, and I deeply apologize, but whilst watching both films, I found it extremely difficult to fathom anything going on.

I'm just guessing that its the language and the way the characters are speaking. (I'm 20 y/o btw) I'm a huge fan of classic films, but seem to not be able to grasp anything Shakespearean =/




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Yes, the characters´ failure to speak properly is a major obstacle - and since practically everything of relevance is presented verbally, there are whole scenes of which point would have eluded me completely if it weren´t for historical information obtained elsewhere. And boy do they talk - it´s one endless wallop of blather from beginning to end... not just in a strange sounding lingo, but also delivered with a difficult-to-follow accent and spoken much too fast... and it´s only so long one is prepared to gladly listen the lingo about 50% of which is more or less incomprehensible (hell, it would be pretty annoying even if it was easier to follow). And since it´s a film, after all, wouldn´t it have made more sense to approach the thing differently, axe some 2/3 of the high minded chatter and try to rely more on imagery to get the point across (sure, it´s Shakespeare and all so it may seem like a blasphemy for some, but still...). There certainly are movies that are adapted from stage plays which do work fine even in their overt, unaltered talkiness (Who´s Afraid Of Virginia Woolf, Glengarry Glen Ross), but they´re few and far between. This particular number here is, despite the extraordinary acting performances - Olivier being truly amazing - and outstanding production design, frustrating more than anything else.



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"Yes, the characters' [sic] failure to speak properly..." ROTFLMFAO!!!

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Or you might try putting in the effort to understand Shakespeare.

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If you're watching the DVD, put the subtitles on. It's a lot easier. You'll understand it.

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Unless that would be too much effort. You know what they say, you can't educate pork!

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I enjoy Shakespeare and it still takes a few minutes to get into the flow of the language after not hearing it for a while.
I think anyone needs to be open to getting into that flow if they want to enjoy these films.

It is worth the effort. I recommend reading it first as it will be easier to accept visually.


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The best way to watch these classic movies is with the text in front of you. Or read the play ahead of time. It is hard work either way.

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If anyone is interested, there is a series of Shakespeare plays done by the BBC strictly for educational purposes. The lines are delivered in neutral terms so you can hear what is said quite clearly. As far as drama goes, they are a bust, but they are easy to follow.

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