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What did the spy do with his suitcase radio?


The pro-Nazi Irish spy ("O'Reilly") sent to London is given a suitcase by the taxi driver (another German agent) containing his radio equipment and other undercover needs. But what does he do with the case and its contents once he's finished with his mission? He can't leave it in his rooming house, and trying to lug it around to throw it away someplace would almost certainly attract attention. And the taxi driver told him not to ring him unless he absolutely had to, so he couldn't return it to him (which would seem the logical thing to do). So what did he do with it all? And did German agents in London have so many such cases that they could afford to dispose of each one after a single mission?

Just one of those nagging little plot lapses that bedevil a lot of movies.

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Was he meant to be IRA?

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Interesting question. It's not clear. But certainly the IRA and he would not have been out of sympathy with one another.

Still, when they were alone on the drive from the station the cab driver suddenly had a pretty obvious German accent. Regardless of whether O'Reilly was IRA, he was plainly working directly for the Germans, and it also seems apparent that this wasn't his first mission for them.

Maybe he could have met up with an IRA man in London and handed him the suitcase/radio, but that too seems very risky.

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To be honest, it wasn't clear when I asked the above that his character was fictitious (I'd never even heard of Operation Mincemeat ), so it's quite academic. But there is historical substance to the notion that the Nazis and Sinn Fein/IRA collaborated, so the question is not completely illiterate.

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No, Boyd's character and the events surrounding him are entirely an invention of the film. (I suppose the Germans might have sent a spy to investigate "Major Martin", but if so the British remained unaware of it.) So is Lucy, although a fake love letter was placed on the dead man's body. It was written by Montagu's secretary -- the Gloria Grahame character was another cinematic invention.

Operation Mincemeat has been the subject of debate and minsinformation since it became public knowledge when Montagu wrote his book in 1954. The manner of their finding a body to use, and who they used, as depicted in both the book and film, was false. Years later it was stated that the real corpse was that of a middle-aged homeless man who had died in a London hospital, whose body they simply used as he had no one to claim it, and this was the "corrected" tale accepted for two or three decades.

But after many more years the story now seems to be that the body was that of a British sailor who had been killed, along with all his shipmates, when his ship was mistakenly torpedoed by a British submarine off Scotland. Many bodies washed ahsore, and the incident was covered up by the government for decades, for obvious reasons. But this would also explain why it took so long for Montagu and his aide to drive to Southampton with the body. Even in 1943 the journey shouldn't have taken as long as it's depicted in the movie. (My wife and I actually drove a similar route just last month.) In point of fact, their trip took so long because they first secretly drove north to Scotland to retrieve a suitable corpse, then had to travel all the way back down Britain to rendevous with the submarine.

(Interestingly, despite all the fictionalizations in this film, some details remained true. The sub's commander was in fact named Jewell, for instance. He died about seven years ago at 90, having spent the last ten years of his life as a quadriplegic following a fall down a flight of stairs, a sad irony seeing as how he'd made it through the war unscathed.)

By the way, the real Ewan Montagu is in the movie. He's one of the Chiefs of Staff Webb and Naismith meet with to discuss the plan -- the one who says, when actor Alan Cuthbertson says he'd thought of four ways the plan could go wrong, "Four? I was going to say forty," and who near the end of the scene warns "Montagu" that if the Germans see through this, he's pinpointing Sicily as the actual target. As you can see, the real Montagu bore no resemblance to Clifton Webb whatsoever.

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I'd picked up on most of this from reading the other threads and the trivia section, but thanks all the same. Although I've never been interested in the espionage/SOE/Enigma side of the war, I'm still suprised that it was such a complete blank spot.

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I've always found the intelligence side of the war at least as interesting, often more so, than the combat. The latter couldn't have succeeded without the former.

A late friend of mine, many decades older, was with SOE and among other things was the contact person for people dropped into Occupied Europe to carry out espionage missions. She told me many fascinating and harrowing stories. One pursued agent radioed his last report from inside a haystack while the Germans surrounded it and set fire to it. The man burned to death while transmitting, reporting what was happening to him as he was dying. Pretty horrible stuff. A lot of people sacrificed everything to do their small part to defeat the Axis. I sometimes wonder what they'd think of the world they won for us.

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To be honest, I've never been that interested in the combat side, either! I'm one of those people who watch WW2 films and end up feeling a bit sorry for the Nazis.

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I'd like to know which WWII films you've been watching that would lead to such unwarranted feelings! Mass-murdering racist bastards who invaded peaceful nations, killed millions and looted a continent usually don't engender much sympathy.

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Mass-murdering racist bastards who invaded peaceful nations, killed millions and looted a continent usually don't engender much sympathy.


Well, some would characterise the above as a potted history of the British Empire. But I'm thinking of it more as a reaction to the OTT propaganda you typically get in British WW2 films, especially those made in wartime. Not that it particularly spoils my enjoyment or that I expect anything different in a time of national emergency, and I'm sure the Germans were even more blatant in their media. But you have to admit - there's a basic ethnic kinship between Germans and Brits, which wouldn't apply if I were watching, say, Zulu or a western.

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You do make something of a point about the imperialism of the British (or French, or anybody else), but there are differences. Whatever the injustices of, or committed under, colonialism (and there were many, obviously), there was not the systematic slaughter and looting of the nations, nor the genocidal policies of the Nazis -- and Japanese as well. The British weren't building crematoria into which they shoved the gassed bodies of, say, Indians or Africans.

In any case, none of the wrongs committed by others mitigates the actions or ideologies of Nazis or Nazism, nor certainly makes them obejcts of even a little sympathy.

As to the ethnic kinship between Germans and Brits, well, look at the Royal family, for starters. Hitler was certainly aware of it, which is why he tried to create an alliance between the two nations in the 30s, obviously unable to comprehend that the differences between the two peoples went far deeper than vague racial affinities.

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I wish I knew what you could do with those stories. Is there any way to compile them and have them published in a newspaper? Is there any way to make these stories a little more immortal and perhaps even more widespread?

IMDb certainly is no place for tales, unfortunately. Boards are wiped clean periodically.

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Thank you for the suggestion, spritsl. Bot most of this is on the public record and in books on the subject, so no worries about its being lost to posterity, I think.

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I thought he had a subtle German accent, indicating that his Irish accent was fake (maybe to disguise the German accent among the English, who would more easily spot a fake English accent).

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The British turned or killed all the German spies in Britain and ran the ones they turned and thus were aware whenever a new one entered the country. Such new spies were either turned or killed.

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They probably arranged a switch at a drop off.

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Possibly, but having two guys lugging identical cases around, one of them with all that radio gear, seems pretty risky -- especially if the spy had been discovered. By following him the British could potentially break up the entire ring.

But along those lines, I think it would have been best, and most logical, for O'Reilly simply to have been told to ring for the taxi driver only after he's completed his mission, and let the cabbie hide or dispose of the equipment. I don't know why he wasn't supposed to contact the guy again except in an emergency.

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