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Dr. Selden and the Starkeeper-


Is it implied that they are actually one and the same person? In the 1967 TV version of "Carousel", starring Robert Goulet, they were. That's what I remember most about it. In that version, Billy goes down to Earth with the Starkeeper himself, not with the Heavenly Friend, and the Starkeeper tells him later that he can't accompany Billy to the graduation because he has business to attend to - something that makes Billy notably uncomfortable. When Billy goes to the graduation - surprise! The Starkeeper is there, posing as Dr. Selden.

In the stage version (I have six of the R&H librettos in an old Modern Library hardback book), the stage instructions say that as Billy and the Heavenly friend pass by Dr. Selden when leaving, he "watches and smiles wisely". IMHO, that implies that our old doctor was really the Starkeeper, and that he went down to Earth to help Billy out of a jam after he slapped his daughter.

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I have also seen productions where the starkeeper has been a woman, and Dr Seldon has been changed to a school teacher. But still played by the same person.

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Cause women can't be doctors. I was in Carousel in high school and I played both characters. The funniest thing about that role was that during that whole huge 20 minute ballet sequence me and Billy just had to stand there frozen with my hand on his shoulder. Kind of awkward.

Dr. Seldon's life must kind of suck considering that everytime he goes to the gates of heaven time speeds up to 1 year every minute. So the poor guy is at work and he sees his entire family in line because they died back on earth. I guess he was probably single.

~Management

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You seem to forget that "Dr Seldon", was not just a Dr, but also the local minister. At the time this is set it would not have been possible for a woman to be a minister.

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Well, the likelihood of a female doctor in Maine in the early 1870's would be pretty slim. If .1% (random guess) of doctors at the time were females, why make this small character the 1 out of 1000? It would stick out like a sore thumb.

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