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I was disappointed that Rhoda never got around to killing Monica


She was probably one of the most annoying, pretentious characters I've ever seen. I was really happy and excited that she was planning to kill her the next day for her lovebird. Even if Rhoda had been found out in the process by her father, or someone else. I would have loved to see that.

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LOL!!

"Oh, what a pecunious little girl!"

Yeah... bite me, Monica.

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Monica did eventually notice that Christine was acting weird, and straight up asked her what was wrong, so she got kudos from me for that. She was just taken by Rhoda's sweet facade, even Kenneth told Rhoda that everyone loved her. He was also taken by Rhoda's sweet facade, but he gets kind of a pass, as he was away in the military or something like that when Claude and Leroy died.

It's so ironic that Ozzy Ozbourne, the Prince Of Darkness, is so damn adorable.

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She was rather snobbish and thought she was better than everyone. Mrs. Daigle got that impression from Christine but Monica is who she really should have been looking at.

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if you listen towards the end of the moview when rhoda is at home with her dad she asks her dad how long monica is going to live and he said for a long time, and she said that she would find out the next day when she and monica would be sunning themselves privately on the roof where no one could see them so she was planning on killin monica to get her love birds

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I didn't necessarily dislike Monica but I do think the movie could have gone on much longer. The movie is a pretty long movie at 2 hours, 9 minutes but there was some much more they could have shown. I would have liked to see Christine ether die or stay in a coma for a long time and Kenneth take over raising Rhoda. It would but great to see Kenneth slowly realize that Rhoda was a serial killer after the death of Monica and others. I Think Christine 's father would have eventually gotten specious because of the conversation he had with Christine. So he would probably be a victim sooner than later.

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I don't think her Rhoda's grandfather would be a victim. He knew of her suspision, so unlike eveyone else, would have caught on very quickly should others die mysteriously. Also, why would Rhoda kill him? He had nothing she wanted at that point. The only reason she would kill him is if she knew he was on to her. But even then, she didnt kill her mother, so she probably wouldn't kill him then.

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Yes, but Rhoda's mother protected her, even covered up for her. That made Rhoda trust her, I doubt Rhoda's grandfather would have done nothing if he knew the truth.

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But what I mean also, is that Rhoda wouldn't know he on to her. She didn't know that her mother confessed her suspicions to her grandfather. So, unless he asks her or flat out tells her, there is no reason he would be a target,unless she wanted something that he had.

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agreed. that Monica was a real bitch.

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Rhoda said that the next day (the day after the lightning strike got her), Monica was going to take her up to the roof for a sunbath. That's when Rhoda would have killed Monica by pushing her off the roof.

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I felt certain she was about to stage Monica's death that night, when she realized the rainstorm might interfere with their "sunbathing"!

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I am formerly known as HillieBoliday....Member since May 2006

I think there was an element of distrust that Rhoda had for her mother at a certain point. Remember when her mother was getting ready to administer the 'vitamins'; Rhoda asked to see them. She had confessed everything to her mother at that point, and didn't really know what her mother was going to do about it.

You should read the book.....very interesting read!


"OOhhhooo....I'M GON' TELL MAMA!"

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Yes, it is clear that Rhoda did not trust anyone, not even her own Mother. That's why Rhoda insisted on seeing the vitamins bottle so she could look at the label. But her Mother outsmarted her by putting the sleeping pills in the vitamin pills bottle! Christine had by then become wise to Rhoda's ways.
Personally...I feel that there was a strong possibility that eventually Rhoda might have killed her own Mother. But only if Rhoda saw her Mother as a threat. Rhoda is incapable of real love as we know it. But she is an expert at faking it.

Monica was next on her list. If not for that lightning strike Rhoda would have killed Monica when they were up on the roof sunbathing. A little push over the edge of the roof and....next thing you know Rhoda has the two love birds she so longs to have. And she would get away with it. That's why she emphasized to her father that they would be "where nobody can see us". She had it all planned out in advance.

In my opinion the biggest flaw in the movie is the silly feel-good ending during the closing credits. It was the conservative 1950s and the producers felt it had to be included but it breaks the mood of the story. They should have treated the ending of the movie more seriously. It's in a way an insult to the audience's intelligence. Do they think that the audience will think Patty McCormack is evil? So we have to show everyone watching that "it's only a movie"! That's condescending but as I said, it's a '50s thing. Even 10 years later that would have never been done in a movie.

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I am formerly known as HillieBoliday....Member since May 2006


Thanks....very good commentary! I saw this when I was 8 years old back in 1956; up in northern California, with cousins who were 13 & 14 years old. I don't think the films were rated back during that time; because there was no problem with my getting in to see this particular one. Well.....needless to say....that movie left an impact on me! I posted on another board that I was the eldest girl of 4 little brothers whom I loved dearly; and when the story unfolds that she murdered little Claude Daigle.....I was absolutely stunned! For days after seeing The Bad Seed....for some reason....I was very quiet. I couldn't get the scenes out of my mind.....and to this day....it still haunts me. At that time I was not aware of the somewhat obscure cases of children who committed murder. Fast forward about 4 decades later finding that they do exist after doing some research into various cases, and reading the book this movie was based on really floored me. I have never forgotten 'The BD', and even though I am better informed now....this movie haunts me every time I watch it!

That being said....I have to apologize....but when they showed the spanking at the end...I was so relieved! It lightened it up for me.....probably because I was so young at the time; and wondered while watching the movie....why Rhoda's mother didn't chastise her with a spanking....LOL! The book is some what of an intellectual read (at least for me); but gives you some good background on the characters that the movie does not provide.

"OOhhhooo....I'M GON' TELL MAMA!"

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That being said....I have to apologize....but when they showed the spanking at the end...I was so relieved! It lightened it up for me.....probably because I was so young at the time; and wondered while watching the movie....why Rhoda's mother didn't chastise her with a spanking....LOL!

Then that scene did it's job because that's exactly what it was intended to do: relieve the terrible stress of anxiety built up by the story. I completely understand why an 8 year old would feel relieved in this way. I am sure if I had been allowed to go see it when I was 8 I would have been relieved by that closing scene also. It's as an adult that I have misgivings about it. But I do understand why it was a helpful tension reliever for some viewers.


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So you think Rhoda believed that her mother would try and kill her? I always had a feeling that Rhoda had intended on offing the mother if she pulled through. I think when Rhoda asked her father about what made her sick the same night that Christine shot herself was a hint that she suspected her mother of being the cause. Also, her inquiring about her mothers condition solidified that idea to me. I think she was smart enough to put two and two together and she would not think it was just a coincidence that she was sick the same night her mother shot herself.

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I think she was worse in the books, not a lick of humanity and much more lethal. The movie version softened Rhoda's personality a little bit. With that said I really loved the book.

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I need to find a copy of the book to read. What is the title and author's name?

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William March

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Thanks! I searched online and I now have an eBook copy of the novel. I also read a very good bio of William March. He was a very unusual and fascinating person.

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I would have enjoyed seeing Rhoda somehow getting that nosy, annoying old bat to tumble off the roof.

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I would have enjoyed seeing Rhoda somehow getting that nosy, annoying old bat to tumble off the roof.


If she hadn't been killed by the lightning strike Rhoda would have pushed or shoved or tripped Monica over the edge of the apartment building roof the next day when they were up there sunbathing. Then Rhoda gets the love birds! That simple! And Rhoda would have gotten away with it. No witnesses - she always makes sure there are no witnesses before she kills somebody. However, her type of killer always gets caught eventually. It might be years later but she would get caught.
Yes, Monica would have had a hand in her own fate for ever trusting Rhoda. People like her who think they know it all often don't know very much at all.

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It would have been a great bit of black comedy if Rhoda in her rhinestone sunglasses had cconvinced dear Aunt Monica that the sunniest spot was right near the edge....

There's a light (Over at the Frankenstein place)--The Rocky Horror Picture Show

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