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How could Tyrone Power . . .


NOT get an Academy Award nomination for this movie?!?!?!?

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Because, as we all know, Tyrone Power just COULD NOT ACT. However, he WAS an Irish immigrant military guy in this picture. I cannot believe John Wayne was ever considered for this role.

I have seen John Wayne act. For about 15 seconds in Island In The Sky. I have recently been very intrigued by commentary by Tyrone Powers' critics long ago. It's apparent that he actually COULD act and did so well at it that he SHOULD have been nominated for the best actor award for this picture and he actually should have won it. But, the Oscars are idiotic anyway. Many greats never got any and there are so many unknown greats over the years it's impossible to pick them all.

Abandon Ship is another Powerful movie. And there are others where he is a great non-swashbuckler as well. Not to diss his action movies at all either.

Just a very underrated actor overall.

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I think Tyrone Power was a wonderful actor. You're right, he's amazing in Abandon Ship. Peripherally, I caught that on TV at a very young age, and it's one of those movies that helped me realize that not every story is a happy one, but it was incredibly compelling nonetheless, even to my grade school sensibilities, in no small part because of the way Power handled his difficult role.

Another example of Tyrone Power's acting ability is the reader's theater production he was in of Benet's "John Brown's Body," with Raymond Massey and Judith Anderson, directed by Charles Laughton. There's a recording of it that pops up on ebay every now and then, and it's well worth seeking out. Power assumes different characters throughout the course of the presentation, and he's magnificent, spellbinding really.

I really hope that during his short lifetime he was aware of the fact that he was a talented and gifted person, whose performances gave a lot of enjoyment to many people.

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Unfortunately, Power often expressed dissatisfaction about his career. He felt the roles he was usually given at Fox, where he spent most of his professional life, relied too much on his looks and charm and didn't give him room to really stretch as an actor. This is why he began taking time off to do stage work from the early 50s, because the theatre gave him better, more diverse roles and much more leeway to explore his talent, and like most actors he enjoyed the immediacy of connecting with his audience through stage work. His preference for the theatre was so great that he withdrew from Fox's The Robe, even though it was clearly going to be a major film (and the first released in CinemaScope). Power's box office was down in those years and a big hit would have helped him, but his priority was finding work that interested him, which mostly meant the theatre.

One of his early stage roles in this period was in the lead in the London production of Mister Roberts. Critics who saw both this version and Henry Fonda's New York original thought that Power was actually better, though this very American play was not particularly successful with British audiences.

Still, Power was too hard on himself. In an interview he gave just before departing for Spain in 1958 to film Solomon and Sheba, Power said there were only four films in his entire career that he was "proud of": Blood and Sand, Nightmare Alley, Abandon Ship and Witness for the Prosecution. I think Power made the mistake many film people and critics made in that era, equating a film's quality with its supposed "importance". Most of the films Power was looking to do at the time of his death were rather weighty, self-important projects, to be produced by his own company, Copa. I think he and most people at that time underestimated the value and quality of supposed "entertainment" pictures, which may not have been considered the "important" films of their day but which are now recognized as solid works of art in their own right...many better than some of those films that were considered so "important" in the 30s or 40s or 50s. Surely many other of Power's films, including Lloyd's of London, In Old Chicago, Jesse James, The Mark of Zorro, The Black Swan, The Razor's Edge, The Long Gray Line, The Sun Also Rises and many others are generally viewed as extremely good films today.

King Vidor, who directed Solomon and Sheba, said long afterward, "With Power, it would have been a marvelous picture. Without him, it became just an unimporatnt, nothing sort of film." Vidor meant that Power understood the complexities of Solomon's character and was giving a nuanced performance, whereas his replacement, Yul Brynner, simply played him as a macho character. I don't know that under any circumstances S&S would have been a "marvelous" picture, but from the outtakes I've seen of Power's performance, he was indeed vastly better than Brynner. (Ironically, Power's father, Tyrone Sr., died of a heart attack on a movie set in 1931, the same fate that would befall his son 27 years later.)

I agree, Power merited at least an Oscar nomination for The Long Gray Line. It's fascinating to see how uncannily effective he is in portraying old age, an age he himself would never reach. Watch him in the final scene, just in long shot, as he briefly breaks ranks during the cadets' tribute to him to shake hands with the corps commander. His entire demeanor is that of an old man, done with amazing subtlety and skill. Power always believed his best film performance came in Nightmare Alley, a film he pressured a reluctant Darryl Zanuck to do, and which the studio dumped on the market and withdrew pretty quickly. Power probably deserved a nomination for that film too.

All this said, I'll close by admitting that, though I am a great fan of Power and student of his career, in truth, I don't think he was a truly great actor. A very good one, often capable of really excellent performances under the right circumstances, but overall a man whose success was as much a product of his hard work at bettering himself as an actor and his utter dedication to his profession as it was of his innate talent. He was serious about acting as a career in a way few actors are. But there were many actors of greater depth and skill. This is not to put him down in any way, for Power himself realized he needed to grow as an actor, to try to reach levels he hadn't before, and this self-awareness and effort to improve his talents were really quite remarkable. But one can be a fan and admirer while acknowledging certain shortcomings in the man's abilities.

By the way, I'm often chided because one of my favorite Power films -- certainly far from his best, just one I like -- is The Black Rose from 1950. It got only so-so reviews and isn't especially well rated today, but there's something remote and mysterious and of its time about it that I find quite appealing, and I think Power was very good in this underrated film as well.

If only he hadn't been such a heavy smoker and had taken better care of his heart. How ironic that Power only took the role in Solomon as part of a two-picture deal that enabled him to do Witness for the Prosecution and co-produce and share in the profits from Solomon, even though he hated costume epics and was trying to get away from them.

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Certainly I agree that Tyrone Power was a fine actor, and many of his films are very good films. And this film in particular I felt he did a fine performance. But I think he is in that second category of actor, as his best films are in a second category of film.


He never made a "Casablanca" or a "Double Indemnity" or "Sunset Boulevard" or "Citizen Kane" so I think it was this type of movie I'm sure he wanted to be in. An immortal film. Which the four above are (as well as some others).


There is nothing to be ashamed of as an actor to not be in a movie of the above quality and I'm sure Power's lament was assuaged with the success he did have. None-the-less, he was a fine actor and his station in the grand scheme of things wasn't all that humble at all, but quite lofty.

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I agree with much of what you say, except that Power's lament was not assuaged by the successes he did have. He always regretted much of his film career and belittled a lot of it -- far too much, as I indicated before, than I think was just. He was way too hard on himself and I think didn't really appreciate how good he was in so many films he came to dislike, if not despise (or how good those films themselves were). In his later years he did many films mostly for the money, not because he regarded them as good, or preferable to his beloved stage work.

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I absolutely understand and can see what you are saying.


But as for him being "hard on himself" and such, I do not put too much stock or see much weight in the "horrific travails" of actors who are comparitively speaking, living pretty good lives in comparison to us mere mortals. The idea that they have to endure such disappointment as crosses to be carried because they are less immortalized than they hoped for is beyond my poor ability to analyze the human spirit. Nor do I wish to have such ability.


I'm just thankful that there is some beautiful art in this world for me to enjoy.

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There are certainly actors (many more today, I think, than decades before, when many came from very poor backgrounds) who feel sorry for themselves even while they enjoy lives of privilege. It's largely a generational thing.

I don't think Power fell into that category. His problem was not fame or money or recognition but the fact that he took his profession very seriously and wanted to make himself as good an actor as he could. He also found himself stifled by the studio system and came to hate being forced into films he didn't like. He thought of stage work as the most legitimate kind of "pure" acting, and wanted to do more "meaningful" roles than he was often offered, at least as far as movies went. His dissatisfaction arose from his feeling that he was thought of as a "star" rather than an actor, and that his handsomeness was actually a drawback to his being taken seriously as an actor -- which was no doubt the case, at least to a great extent. His looks too often pigeon-holed him into roles he regarded as shallow. (He even once said that he hoped to have an accident that would scar him so that people would begin to look at his acting rather than his face.)

As I said, I think he was wrong-headed about all this, didn't appreciate his acting in many films he didn't like, and was way too hard on the films themselves. But this was part and parcel of the era he lived in, when too many people thought that great acting could only be found in films that were About Something. He certainly wasn't the only actor who felt he had more to give than he was allowed to by the movies. Errol Flynn, Alan Ladd, many others of their type felt the same thing, and with much justification. They weren't being self-pitying or asking for sympathy; they were frustrated that they were so seldom allowed to do more than what the studios wanted them to do. They had achieved "immortality". But they wanted to be taken more seriously than they were, to expand their range and show they could be more than the glamour-boys they were so often cast as, but were afforded few opportunities to do so. That was the system, and the attitudes, back then.

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For me, the two Power movies that approach greatness and classic status are Nightmare Alley and Mark of Zorro. I think Mark of Zorro is near the level of Adventures of Robin Hood and Sea Hawk, just my opinion. I think Witness for the Prosecution is classic, but more because of Laughton than Power, even though I'm in the minority in that I think Power did a fine job in WFTP.

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I agree with you entirely about Zorro, an excellent film that while highly regarded still doesn't quite get its due.

However, my opinion about Nightmare Alley has actually gone down over the years. True, it contains what may be Power's finest acting in any of his films (though I can think of a few others roughly on a par), but the film itself is a rather contrived affair, more so as it goes along. There's nothing one can really relate to in it -- its characters, plot, nothing. Most films noir do make such a connection with the audience, however far-fetched some of their plots may be. But Alley is, I think, simply too far outside the mainstream, too unreal, too much a showcase for the actor rather than a movie the audience can identify with, to be all that good. Not a bad film; it starts out okay, but soon jumps the rails and becomes a simply not very credible one. My opinion, of course.

I thought Power was good in WFTP too. But it was definitely Laughton's show. Still, its classic status is due to more than just these two men.

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There's a really great Suspense radio show from the 50's called The Guilty Always Run with Power. It was one of the first old radio shows I heard when I was a kid. It was in a record set I got for Christmas one year called "Hollywood Heroes On The Air." Anyway, the show centered around Power, on a beach vacation with his wife, both of them surfers. Power's wife winds up breaking her leg surfing, and consequently while Power is out surfing by himself one day, he meets up with a pretty young thing and they have a mild innocent flirtation. Well, this is all backstory that comes out throughout the course of the radio drama -- it opens really effectively with Power and his wife sitting in their beach house, and the phone keeps ringing, and everytime Power picks it up, no one is there. But when he tires of answering it, and the wife picks it up, it's the girl Power had been flirting with, crying out in agony and pain, and then the call gets cut off. The girl winds up being found dead, and Power is suspected, and throughout the story he keeps acting like a guilty person, doing the wrong thing at every turn, inadvertantly casting more and more suspicion on himself as the story progresses. William Conrad has a great role as Power's neighbor/friend at the beach, trying to help him out of his ever increasing trouble. Sorry, didn't mean to go on and on, but for me, this was a really suspenseful story, Power was great in it, and he was one of the one's who introduced me to the pleasures of old time radio. Just pointing up his versatility.

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Don't apologize for "going on and on" (I do that all the time) -- the program sounds great. I wonder whether there's a recording of it somewhere. It's the kind of thing one would hope had been preserved.

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Thanks for the grace note, hobnob. I found a link to the show. Anyway, thanks for the good posts, always fun to chat about the golden age movies and performers.

http://www.escape-suspense.com/2008/01/suspense---th-5.html

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Me too, dustinthewind, and thanks for the link. Hope to continue the discourse here and/or elsewhere around the IMDb boards!

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