MovieChat Forums > The Ladykillers (1956) Discussion > What Did U Think Of The Remake?

What Did U Think Of The Remake?


To all u fans of the original what did u think of the 2004 remake?

'Keep Your Friends Close, But Your Enemies Closer'

reply

It was terrible. Terrible is too nice a word. This movie does not work Americanised, and no offence to anyone, but Americans can't do subtle dark humour. Plus, Hanks isn't a patch on our Alec. Doesn't even include the character part where the Professor slowly becomes more and more insane as the movie goes on, whilst trying his hardest to remain gentlemanly.

It's off to bunny heaven for you, Big Ears!!!

reply

The original Ladykillers was directed by an American and guess what, written by an American.

reply

Yes, I know, but the humour is much more cynical and dark in the origanal - it doesn't need sexist, rascist remarks to make it funny.

It's off to bunny heaven for you, Big Ears!!!

reply

I would never argue that the remake is a better film, because it's not, but it's pretty decent in it's own right. The original is a rich portrait of post-war London. The remake is a rich portrait of the American South. Both films are very vivid and rich in symbolism, especially when one considers the fact that they are comedies. Alec Guinness is a brilliant actor and certainly plays a huge part in making the original what it is, but to say that Tom Hanks can't hold a candle to him, why that's just idiotic. Hanks is a brilliant actor and quite a good job with the part of the Professor. Unfortunately, he had huge shoes to fill. Both films are just so great at capturing societies in which treachery bubbles underneath a veneer of civility. The original is flawless. The remake suffers by comparison and makes a few missteps on its own, but it's hardly terrible.

reply

The original Ladykillers was directed by an American, and guess what, written by an American.


And guess what? BOTH of those Americans spent a lot of time in Britain. The director mostly grew up in Scotland, and started his filmmaking experience at Ealing studios, and the writer stayed in Britain after the war, married to an English woman for years before writing Ladykillers.

Just because two people wrote and directed it that weren't actually born in Britain doesn't mean that it isn't quintessentially British and that any American would be able to make it. As the Cohen brothers proved with their crap that was about as subtle as a sledgehammer, and as funny as a needle in the eye.

reply

That's a lot of patriotic bull. Another "Americans are inferior to Brits" message. The remake was brilliant. But you have to appreciate the way the Coen Brothers do things.

reply

Another "Americans are inferior to Brits" message.

Just jealousy. You know everyone loves to publicly hate America, while secretly loving everything about it. Hate-speech against Americans is hip, it's cool, it's now. It's almost as popular as being PC, going green, or saying everything is "epic."

reply

Just jealousy


Another deluded yank.

You know everyone loves to publicly hate America, while secretly loving everything about it


 What your draft dodger president, your gun crime, your obesity or the fact that your doctors care more about what's in your wallet than your health?

reply

You wanna yank what? Silly Brit. Now please Brexit stage left.

reply

Draft dodger president? Are you referring to Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, or both? Lots of room to argue over that, but at least we get to elect them. In good old Mother England you are stuck with the choice of the sovereign, who gets his or her right to make the choice from God.

Gun crime? Well, three days ago some n'er-do-well shot a police officer. The shooting left the officer wounded, but alive, so the culprit began to beat the officer to death with his bare hands. So far, it could have happened anywhere. A passing motorist saw the kerfuffle and pulled over. When he saw what was happening he pulled out his own pistol and shot the cop beater to death on the spot. If such happened in the UK or Australia the good Samaritan would have been arrested and tried for murder. We are unfortunate that criminals can get guns here, but they can do so in any country on Earth. Fortunately, loyal citizens can also get guns and use them against the lawless.

As for obesity, we are affluent and some people eat too much. I am, myself, ten pounds over my 'ideal weight' according to some charts. But, I've never seen anyone forcing food down anyone's throat here.

I am proud that my ancestors came from the UK, even though it might have still been England and not yet the UK then. I don't think the United States of America would have become had those ancestors not had the Magna Carta along with the writings of David Hume, and Adam Smith (among others) to study. Still, I am glad that they emigrated here and I bet that many POME's are, also.

The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank.

reply

"Are you referring to Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, or both?"

Why not all three? Clinton and Bush being draft dodgers doesn't change the fact that Trump's one too, does it?

"At least we get to elect them. In good old Mother England you are stuck with the choice of the sovereign, who gets his or her right to make the choice from God"

First, learn some facts. The Queen is nothing more than a sovereign cash cow. She doesn't get to make any political decisions about the UK. She doesn't get to even decide who has state visits. I'm an anti-royalist myself but if there was a vote tomorrow to get keep the royal family or get rid of them, I would vote to keep them because they bring in a lot of revenue. And don't pretend that America has some great democracy by saying you get to elect them. Hilary Clinton got more votes than Trump in the 2016 election but Trump got in because of the electoral college. Great democracy. Everyone got what the majority didn't want. Oh, and there's no such thing as god. Ironic that you don't think the queen, a real person, should have a say on anything which she doesn't anyway, while you and a lot of other americans bow down to a mythical man in the clouds.

"We are unfortunate that criminals can get guns here, but they can do so in any country on Earth".

But not every country on Earth has the gun crime America does. Can't leave home until you're 18, can't drink until you're 21 but anyone can buy a gun. Great law.

reply

[deleted]

The remake got it all wrong.

It dispensed with the subtle dark humour that made the original so great and opted for the "quirkiness" card.

I love the Coen's but didn't find their adaptation funny or amusing.

reply

The remake was awful, simply awful.

I'm not racist in any way shape or form and i think anyone who is is an idiot, but what the hell was the point of having a modern day token black guy randomly added into the character lineup just so we could see him walking round the set going "damn" "sh*t" "that's whacked!"

And i agree that Tom Hanks is a brilliant actor, infact i'd say he's probably the best in Hollywood right now, but unfortunately i'd also have to agree that his portrayal of the professor was crap compared to Alec Guiness. Alec Guiness's character was believable and funny, Hanks character was just over the top and ridiculous, he irritated me within 20 minutes of first seeing him.

Plus The Old Lady in the new film is nowhere near as good as in the original. The orignal old lady was ancient, small, weak and defenceless and quite senile. The old lady in the remake is a huge, fat, church going, black woman who could probably fight off Hulk Hogan if he came bursting into her house. The whole point of the film was instantly lost.

To top it off though, i didn't find the chemistry between the characters and their inevitable turn on each other anywhere near as convincing or funny as in the original. The remake just missed the point entirely, it wasn't meant to be an outright slapstick comedy, it was a black comedy which wasn't meant to be outright funny, it just was in its own dark little way. I know that remakes these days aren't always 100% faithful anyway, but this apart from the basics might as well have been an entirely different film, like the remake of The Italian Job.

If i hadn't seen the original then i might've enjoyed this version, it's not too bad a film in it's own way and it has its moments, but for me, a fan of the original version, it was appalling.

reply

[deleted]

It was okay, but didn't improve on the original in any way - which I thought was the reason to remake a film.

reply

Unfortunately, the reason for remaking a movie is usually money. The original was like a wonderful plum pudding. The new one is full of rat droppings. That's how the sudden outbursts of vulgarity struck me. So the new one didn't improve on the original, it didn't even come up to the same standard.

reply

[deleted]

I found it not worth of the title 'The Ladykillers'.

reply

[deleted]

[deleted]

Come on, they just used the same story and shot another movie. Why don't you try to respect the good work of Coen's? And how many of the thousands of people watched this movie as the remake of the 50 something year old Ladykillers? I believemost people didn't even know until it was brought up. If you are into movies so much, then I would understand but most of the audience is not. And why should Coen's try to beat this movie? They made a movie which shows the characteristics of them and it was fun to watch it. I am glad that they made this movie because there are not many talented directors nowadays and they are doing their jobs really well...

reply

[deleted]

[deleted]

I personally loved the Coen Brothers remake. And comparing the two films is intresting since it's like same yet different. The same story but different characters and characterizations and setting
except of course for the 'Old Lady'. I think people only hate the remake because the film took a British film and 'gasp' transfered it to an American setting and used American characters even if the original was written and directed by Americans. I think the original is the better film but the remake is in some ways superior to it. It's more funny though not as satirical, performance-wise the crew of the remake J.K. Simmons excepted don't match Cecil Parker, Herbert Lom, Peter Sellers. Hanks is brilliant and delicious as Professor G.H. Dorr though Guinness definitely beats Hanks in that regard. However I think Irma P. Hall is as great as Katie Johnson and maybe better.





How much is a good nights sleep worth?

reply

I saw the remake and then, later, watched the original.

I thought the remake was better and funnier because it worked on more levels. I enjoyed the acting in both but the writing and directing were far better in the remake.

I am a huge fan of the Coen Brothers and no fan of infantile potty humor. The Coens are careful listeners and lovers of American regional dialects and personalities as they showed in the movies Fargo, O Brother Where Art Thou, and Intolerable Cruelty. What a lot of people dont seem to appreciate about "The Ladykillers" remake is that it revels in the completely different ways that each character speaks. It intentionaly used totally over-the-top extremes of language from the Professor, to Gawain, Pancake, and Mrs. Munson. Given the absurdity of the plot, I think it was totally OK to push the extremes of the characters and their language. It created all kinds of great set-ups for comedy within the bounds of the plot.

Bringing these characters together as the situations played out and especially as the pressures and conflicts built was hilarious and created much bigger laughs for me than watching the British cast play it straight.

I thought the character Mrs. Munson was great as a stronger (and more irritating!) personality and it's ridiculous to claim that she was somehow less vulnerable if the gang really wanted to do her in. She was every bit as oblivious to the danger she was in as she smacked Gawain around when he used "hippety hop" language.

Alec Guiness, as the gang leader of the original, was a cool, collected criminal who slowly became unraveled as things went out of control. However, I thought Tom Hanks, as the Professor with no criminal experience, was just as funny as his plans went wrong and he tried so hard to use his useless academic knowlege and language, in trying to handle the gang. I loved when he tried to explain the philosophy behind the short straw to Gawain. It reminded me of a scene in the movie "The Rundown" when Chistopher Walken is trying to explain the concept of the tooth fairy to a bunch of South American lowlife criminals.

I loved the whole Mountain Girl ("Swiss Miss") scene at the Waffle Hut and the the touching story of how Pancake and Mountain met at an Irritable Bowel Syndrome singles gathering in the Catskills.

I didn't like the gag with the painting of the husband changing expressions but, for the most part, I found the remake to be very funny and in fact funnier when watched for the second time because so much of the humor comes from the fact that everyone is speaking a totally different language. I know that it didn't get great reviews but I can only say that I loved the writing of the movie and think it would work great as a stage play as well.

I would hope that the same people with the refined taste to appreciate the original Ladykillers could give the remake a more careful look because it brought a lot of original ideas and gags into the mix and did not stoop to using easy and infantile humor.




reply

I thought the remake was better and funnier. ...the writing and directing were far better in the remake


Just say no to drugs, kids.

reply

I Really Love Tom Hanks

And i think its a very good movie, not my favourit
- But i think its good :)

The Best movie Tom Hanks has made, is Saving Private Ryan or The Green Mile

reply

i'm open-minded about remakes, i mean, they do it with stage shows all the time...

but i'm not even attracted to this, it doesn't look or sound like it pays its respect to the old film, which is kind of insulting. seems they should have left it well alone... although that said i have read on this board some people saying they wouldn't have heard of the original (and best! ;o) ) if not for the new one, so.... if it gets the ealing films watched and appreciated by new audiences, i'm all for it!

rule britannia!

;o)

reply

The remake was so bad that even Alec Guinness's teeth acted better than this lot!

apologies- if my name offends anyone.

reply

I love the remake and I've seen it a number of times.

I'm a huge fan of fifties British comedies, but "The Ladykillers" just didn't do it for me. I prefer Alec Guinness in "Kind Hearts and Coronets".

~~
Jim Hutton: talented gorgeous hot hunk; adorable as ElleryQueen; SEXIEST ACTOR EVER

reply