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Another thought on the box


Although the detective mentions "Manhattan Project", etc. I always believed that the box was NOT a nuclear device or material.

One thing that always led me to believe this is why would the detective, as well as Dr. Soberin, just say it's a radiation weapon, or its highly radioactive material, or whatever. Everyone by 1955 knew all about radiation, radioactive substances, etc. Dr. Soberin is very mysterious in what he says, he could have said, don't open that thing, it will burn you to death and spread radiation everywhere. He does say "it will turn you to brimstone and ashes" but he also says, "would you believe me if I told you?" Why would it be so hard to believe if someone told you there was radioactive material in the box? What is so difficult about just saying what it is? What WOULD be difficult is to describe to someone something that does not yet have a good description or understanding.

Rather, I thought it was some horrific thing that was captured or created, and perhaps studied and isolated in one of these specialized laboratories, such as Los Alamos, but not just a nuclear device. Maybe something that spawned off of working on atomic weapons, but not what we would conventionally think it is. The sound of the thing--while some may argue one must look past for dramatic purposes--gives me pause as well.

I think most people agree it is nuclear material, but to me, I think the ambiguity is what makes it fun.

Thoughts?

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Always thought it was a big box o' pornography

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communism/ww3/the fear of nuclear war, was in the box. It was kind of a shameful fanning of the flames of anti communism to be honest. ( my take anyway)

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Communism has caused the misery and deaths of scores of millions of people. There is no shame in anti communism. If you think otherwise, try living in one of the few places left that are still communist, and see how you like it compared to where you are now.

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A lot of coded language in Hollywood movies of the '50s can be construed as coming down either in opposition of or in support of communism, but quite often what one might read as a pro-communist stance in a movie of the period would be more aptly described as anti-McCarthyist in nature (e.g. condemning the witch hunts of the era rather than supporting the purported target of said hunts).

An interesting example where dual meanings can be derived is Invasion of the Body Snatchers, on the surface implicitly a "reds-under-the-bed" audience-baiter, but perhaps there was more at work in American society at the time that could be argued to be be undermining the fabric of what it means to be truly 'American', i.e. all the damaging, posturing anti-commie, anti-pinko, anti-intelectual chest-pounding and sabre-rattling of McCarthy and his ilk.

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I completely agree about the ambiguity really adding something. Even once the box is opened and the fire begins, it's not your typical nuclear blast. It slowly creeps out, consumes. That haunting sound is also something that's hard to ignore, and it brought to mind the frightful soundtrack from 2001, whenever we see the obelisk. I saw is as some horribly powerful/evil force or entity being unleashed. It's difficult to name or identify, and the director definitely seemed to want to keep us guessing about it, and that's what keeps the film with you.

'I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead'

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Indeed!

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