Okay, I've watched East of Eden about 10 times. I love Dean. But something makes me laugh hysterically every time a watch it. Why does the dude Cal is talking to in the shower room say, "Back away from me. I don't want to get all hot again."? I may be really immature, but it cracks me up every time. It sounds like he's going to be aroused if Cal gets too close to him. Not that I can blame him, I certainly would. What does everyone else think?
sharehahahaha, i think you're hilarious!! I watched it again, why DOES he say that??
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Lol, I was thinking the same thing you were thinking! Really though, why *does* Mr. Hamilton say that? I'm sure it's something non-sexual since it was made in the 50s, but I'd like to know too!
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OMG , well he simply tell him to go away so he can change his clothes + as for the sentence "i don't want to get hot afain" hot here means hot, he wants some cool air around him not the heat coming from anything near him. as simple as that.
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I watched this flick with me friend, and when the dude said that I was just like,
" Yeeeeah, that'd be about right."
What he meant was he needed the cold air around him, he didn't want the body heat from another person heating him up again.
It was funny though. I'd be getting " all hot again" too if James Dean approached me when I was wearing nothing but a towel. Lol!
this is actually the funniest debate i've ever heard! XD
shareHot also means angry. He doesn't want to get into a fight. Maybe.
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Movies from the Hayes Office era are actually full of things like this, and they were *not* innocent. You may be interested to know that sin and sex of all kinds have been around for a LONG time. There are just different ways of treating them in each era. Hollywood has always been steaming with sex.
shareI'm sure it's something non-sexual since it was made in the 50s
Oh come on, if some of you read too much into that hilarious line, some of you deliberately refuse to read anything into it. The line was too funny to be completely innocent; somebody at least chuckled under his/her breath while writing/typing/shooting/acting that scene. What a line! It's the best moment in an otherwise tedious movie in which a charismatic young actor appears for the first time. Poor Steinbeck He deserved better. Think of Grapes of Wrath!
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" Poor Steinbeck He deserved better. "
Steinbeck was quite involved in the film. Even met Dean and approved of his casting according to Kazan. When Steinbeck saw the film he told Kazan it was the best film he had ever seen.
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People at the time weren't in the habit of making continual sexual references for cheap laughs. He probably just means he doesn't want to be crowded. A person pressing up against you puts out body heat - an unpleasant thing when you're in the heat. So yes, I think you're just being childish.
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i'd go to the novel for final ruling on this; directors frequently left out or played down ANY sexual innuendo, since they had been under the heavy "protective" hand of the Hayes commission rules in film. Anyone read the novel ?
looks like its getting remade in 2009/2010. ksf-2
i'd go to the novel for final ruling on this; directors frequently left out or played down ANY sexual innuendo, since they had been under the heavy "protective" hand of the Hayes commission rules in film. Anyone read the novel ?
UH, NO, THEY DIDN'T. Filmmakers at the time found the most creative ways around the Hayes Commission rules and if you have ever seen The Celluloid Closet, you will see what double-entendres, hidden meanings and "chaste" onscreen clinches (see the bath scene in Spartacus) existed that came, many times, from gay writers and directors working below the radar screen. I am not saying that this scene in East of Eden, though strange, is gay in any way. But your point about the times is inaccurate.
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The bath scene in Spartacus wasn't in the movie's original release because it got censored. It was only added back in later.
shareI just watched the move again the other night when it came on TCM. When that scene came on, it was definitely a "WTF" moment! Was it an innocent comment? Was I reading more into the comment than I should have? Was it a double entendre?
Rules? In a knife fight? No rules.
I seriously, seriously doubt there was anything homoerotic about that scene. People were generally much less keen or obsessive to draw such inferences at the drop of a hat in 1955 (when EOE was released,) and even less so in the story's 1917-18 setting, than they are today.
Remember, too, that Will is a good friend of Adam and so there's just no way in Sam Hill he'd ever, EVER be hitting on Adam's son, Cal, even if Will had been the biggest queen in Salinas!
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Yes, but Hollywood was (and still is) a town rife with all sorts of non-traditional sexual behaviors and its denizens consistently inserted (ahem) little bon-mots here and there in their films to both skate the Hays code and drop innuendos onto an unsuspecting public. It's been documented for more than 30 years in film history volumes. Dean was a known bisexual. Do the math.
shareThere's no doubt that Hollywood's done exactly as you suggest, BP. But do you think that director Kazan would allow those kind of innuendos in EOE, with its messages that appeal to a person's sense of decency? Sure, you could cite "A Streetcar Named Desire" as a steamy example of Kazan's work and penetrate the Hays "filters" to conclude that Stanley Kowalsky has some homosexual/bisexual tendencies; but why would Kazan want to inject such themes in a more mainstream vehicle like EOE?
You're also right that Dean was bisexual, but would that have been the way Kazan and the scriptwriters would have wanted to kick off Dean's budding career as the newest talent in motion pictures? Especially if that kind of exposure would have killed Dean's career before it even began?
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In my opinion ,there is no sexual connotation in the line..he just warned Cal not to come closer so he could use some fresh air after taking a hot{means warm!} shower...just look at Cal's innocent face and his reaction after that..he quickly gets back !! poor child !!
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There are plenty enough instances of "legitimate" gay subtext in many films to make it wholly unnecessary for interpreting EVERYTHING as "homo erotic," anyway.
Wishful thinkers: watch the damn scene again, please! Notice Cal's youthful exuberance throughout his entire discussion with Will, before, during and after the locker room scene. Remember that all the kid could think about was restoring his dad's lost fortune. It would be easy for anyone as young as Cal, and overcome by the kind of emotions and motivations Cal had for his father, to do something socially awkward like innocently breaching someone else's (Will's, in this case) "comfort zone."
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But do you think that director Kazan would allow those kind of innuendos in EOE, with its messages that appeal to a person's sense of decency?
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