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John Wayne + Lauren Bacall


John Wayne worked with many different leading ladies during the course of his long and successful career (see my post on the "Favorite Leading Lady" thread on the John Wayne board). Maureen O'Hara, Marlene Deitrich, Claudette Colbert, Rita Hayworth, Katharine Hepburn, Sophia Loren, ect. But the teaming of John Wayne and Lauren Bacall is an extremely underrated one. In their two movies together, Blood Alley and The Shootist, they defiantly showed some chemistry together. It's too bad they didn't work together more.

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I agree.

Eh baby?

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Me three. I just saw BLOOD ALLEY for the first time and was very impressed by their chemistry, especially in the ship's pilot house scenes towards the end. When Bacall parked herself between Captain Wilder and his beloved wheel my TV started smokin'!

I do think the Wayne + Bacall chemistry was more evident in THE SHOOTIST, but it was nonetheless certainly there 20 years earlier in BLOOD ALLEY.

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I guess it must depend on your viewpoint of Wayne and Bacall as separate actors. I am not enamored of Wayne, but think Bacall is great to watch. So from my perspective, I thought the two of them coming together in this movie was silly. I kept thinking that the whole relationship thing was being forced by the director, and when you feel that way, it is a sure sign the on-screen chemistry is not there.

Sorry, but Bacall belongs in better movies than Blood Alley....

"We're going to need a bigger boat..."

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I didn't see any chemistry between them whatsoever. I also felt like it was a bit forced.

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It is my understanding that Bacall did NOT care for Wayne and was not thrilled during the filming of this movie. No doubt it had more to do with their political differences, something that was not a factor with Wayne but apparently was with Bacall. However, when they made the Shootist together many years later, Bacall warmed up to Wayne and they developed a friendship on the set. It may be that Bacall matured over the years, Wayne certainly hadn't changed, and learned to see beyond a person's political views. I've always like Bacall, but felt she shown more in comedies than in dramas. She is much like Wayne, her acting is more a reflection of her being herself as Wayne is in his roles. Both shine in comedies, it seems to play against type.

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Yes, it is true the Bacall matured politically in later years.

Chuchill said:

Show me a young man that is a conservative and I will show you a man with no heart. But show me an old man that is a liberal and I will show you a man with no brain.

Took awhile but Bacall got some brains....LOL

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I think Lauren always had brains. I have to wonder about Wayne's brains, considering his gung-ho conservative stances. As for Churchill:

Show me an old man who drinks brandy for breakfast, smokes like a chimney, sits around, and is as fat as a hog, and I will show you Winston Churchill, truly a man with no brain. LOL

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Maybe during Blood Alley, but not later on. She asked to be in The Shootist. Perhaps it's because of this, taken the The Duke's IMDB page: "Lauren Bacall once recalled that while Wayne hardly knew her husband Humphrey Bogart at all, he was the first to send flowers and good wishes after Bogart was diagnosed with esophageal cancer in January 1956."

And if you think Wayne can't act, I suggest The Searchers, Red River, or She Wore a Yellow Ribbon. You'll see acting.

..Joe

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I think seeing the Duke with Betty is arguably the best reason to watch this IMO pretty ordinary Wayne vehicle.

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Everything I've read --- Bacall enjoyed working with Wayne and both found each other talented and got along weel so long as they didn't talk politics

THIS is usually the case

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Not enamored of Wayne?...LOL... you should start watching movies sometime idiot.

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Whats to be enamored of???

"We're going to need a bigger boat..."

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I've been watching movies from the 1930s through every decade since. My movie collection is up to about 300 currently. I'm a cinemaphile. I've read many books through the years about cinema. I don't consider myself an idiot. I'm also not enamored of John Wayne, although I admit to owning five of his films. He was like all actors of his day, a personality that was the same in every movie. Most of my favorite stars were like that: Bogart, Cagney, Ladd, Stewart, Mitchum. Before I watch any old-time film I know what I'm going to get from the leading man! And that's perfectly okay with me. John Wayne's funny hip-rolling walk, narrow-eyed glare announcing somebody was in trouble(...), unique speech pattern, lop-sided grin, obvious toupee and other constants in his films are all amusing to me. He wasn't a terrific actor: the Duke was a very likeably predictable screen personality.

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John Wayne and particularly Robert Mitchum were not the same in every movie. I can name you half a dozen films starring each that show as broad a range of characterisations as any major star apart from Olivier, Brando and few others. You might have 300 movies but you haven't been watching closely. If you've picked the five Wayne movies where his rolling gait, lopsided grin and toupee (not used until the Sixties) are his main features, that's your problem. When you say you "admit" to owning some of his films you say it all.

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I am a great fan of both John Wayne AND Lauren Bacall, and loved them together in The Shootist. I have only seen about 5-10 minutes worth of this film, and as it was an action sequence, there was no chance of seeing any chemistry. I ask fans of the Duke and Miss Bacall- is this film worth seeing? Your non-trollish thoughts are welcome. Trolls however, may insert their heads up their backsides and fight for air.

"She was a long, tall, authentic blonde. I loved her as much as I loved my .45..."

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Unlike many people on IMDB, Wayne never let politics, sexual orientation, even former blacklistees get in the way of hiring someone. Some of his hires: Richard Widmark, Lawrence Harvey, Kirk Douglas, Rock Hudson, Marguerite Roberts, and others.







Absurdity: A Statement or belief inconsistent with my opinion.

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I am also a fan of both, working my way through the Duke's film catalogue. Tonight is "Blood Alley", I'll get back on later and give you my take on it, haven't seen it in many years.
Whether John Wayne is a good actor or not, one thing you can't deny is he knew how to make a good, family friendly movie, not many films like that any more.

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My take on the film: Decent entertainment, not among his best 6/10, but worth a watch especially if you're a fan of the Duke, and a happy ending!

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