Rape is acceptable,,.


at this school.
Not one kid stood up for Daddy-o to prevent the rape of the other teacher.
All they cared about is that their buddy is off to jail. Evidently what their buddy did was fine, but Dadddy-o was wrong.
Even in the worst schools today, I would think the majority of kids would be proud of a teacher who would step in and prevent an attack.

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Yes, but even now rape is under-reported, much less attempted rape. Back in 1954-5 is had a lower priority and was before women's lib, however this guy was caught red-handed. You're right though, that even Miller turned on him. It's a matter of peer pressure and lack of morality, but yes, it's a sort of flaw in the character development of the script; not sure if it was the same in the book.

For who would bear the whips and scorns of Hollywood... (;-p)

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The perception of rape back then was that a woman was "asking for it." Note the scene between Dadier and Anne, in which she asks how Miss Hammond was dressed and whether or not she is attractive. This is indicative of the mind set that women incite their own rapes by the way they dress and act. I found that scene to be the most disturbing moment in the film.

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I find that odd seeing how conservatively dressed she was.

That said, they did play her off as someone who knew her co-worker was married and she was willing to engage in some action on the side because she was bored.

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Note the scene between Dadier and Anne, in which she asks how Miss Hammond was dressed and whether or not she is attractive.


That's because she's fat and pregnant and can't BE attractive so any woman who is that's around her husband is a threat to her.

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That's because she's fat and pregnant and can't BE attractive so any woman that's around her husband is a threat to her

No, it's because she's petty, insecure, and jealous. Being 'fat and pregnant' is neither an excuse for her jealousy nor an indication her husband will cheat.

I try to understand and relate to Anne but it's very difficult. Her husband is facing some very real challenges at the school but what she chooses to focus on is her own non-existent threat. Instead of being supportive of him, she creates even more problems for him; increasing his level of stress.

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No, it's because she's petty, insecure, and jealous.


Well that too, but I doubt she'd be as much if she wasn't stuck at home waiting to pop while he's out there working with a woman who in her mind, the students find alluring enough TO try and rape.

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novastar_6 says > Well that too, but I doubt she'd be as much if she wasn't stuck at home waiting to pop while he's out there working with a woman who in her mind, the students find alluring enough TO try and rape.
I stand by what I said before; she's petty, insecure, and jealous. In 1955 most married women were housewives. They stayed home all day while their husbands went out to earn a living. This was especially true when they were pregnant. Whatever his job, her husband would either work with women and/or run into them on his way to and from work or in other settings. The odds of at least one of them being attractive to him and other men is very high.

I don't know how anyone can defend such behavior. If she felt stuck at home, bored, waiting to give birth, she should have found herself a hobby or two. Instead, she let her craziness take over until it led to the loss of their baby. While her husband was dealing with actual problems and real stresss she felt the need to imagine a few of her own. She caused him to lose the one thing he had to look forward to in his life, a child. There's no excuse!

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That's why she has a character arc. It shows her insecurity in the beginning and in her vulnerable state, she gets those letters. Later on she realizes her mistake and her wrong and tells him. She redeems herself.

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That's because she's fat and pregnant

Pregnant women generally are larger. They're carrying a baby, after all...

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Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen = 

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The perception of rape back then was that a woman was "asking for it."


It's 2016 and that perception has not changed.

This is indicative of the mind set that women incite their own rapes by the way they dress and act.


Again, nothing has changed since then.

The scene is disturbing, mostly because it would still ring true today.

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Again, nothing has changed since then.

The scene is disturbing, mostly because it would still ring true today.


My thoughts exactly.

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Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen = 

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She was only saying that to show her insecurity at being pregnant and her husband seeing her as sexy still. They used this setup for the letter writing later on.

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This is before the era of "No" means "No" people were only outraged by rape if it was a Black man defiling a White woman.

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Uh,"defiling"?

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Uh,"defiling"? And, yeah, rape was a big deal back then,too, but unfortunately, it was considered "acceptable" in some pretty fcked-up ways back then.

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The students in the school, at least most of them, didn't view the teachers as human beings. It was an "us vs. them" environment.

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I thought the same thing. Even in gangs and prison, they have some moral code. I was surprised none of the kids were angry that one of their 'friends' tried to rape a teacher, instead they are angry at Glenn Ford. That really tells me their character regardless of their circumstances.

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