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So was Johnny Strabler Gay?


i don't know if it occured to anyone else but johnny came across as kinda of homosexual to me. Gay or not gay i still enjoyed the movie. not trying to bash the movie just an observation i had.

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If anything, I'd thought you'd say Lee Marvin's Chino was gay when he says to Johnny, 'I love ya, Johnny !' ! Given his previous relationship with Britches and his attraction to Kathy, your suggestion isn't really credible and may be influenced by the later adoption of Johnny's clothing style by a section of the homosexual community in the 1970s.

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Today he would be....but this is the day of the "queer" (ie. pre-gay): Oscar Wilde, Truman Capote, etc. were the only models for homosexuality (outside of studying classical Greek, but that was the domain of the elite/educated). The key scene is when Kathie really hits the nail on the head & tells him that he is really afraid of her. She sympathizes with his desire to leave a small town where they can't really get what they want. She also comes to realizes that he isn't so much interested in her as a love interest as he has become disinterested in his gang: he is tired of being around immature males, but he also doesn't want the good girl to settle down with & raise a family.

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How does being in a period of transition re maturity make him a homosexual? Everyone goes through that stage, often more than once.

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Funny because from the very first line out of Johnny's mouth, I was under the impression he was gay. That tone...

The feeling would stay with me through the entire film.

You have at some point a zoom on a bottleneck brewing out of the bottle as visual subtext at some point where Johnny seems so confused.

His lost of interest in both girls he encounters seems totally understandable.

He never appeared straight to me.

Not that it mattered anyway.

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Just saw it (for the first time, shame on me) yesterday evening. The same question came to my mind. As a matter of fact, I had this impression about the whole gang. Their mannerisms, their touchy-feely posturings, the exagerated moves and facial expressions, especially when they laughed. They looked like a band of queers, priscilla's posing as tough bikers. To say nothing of Brando's voice. A whining falsetto. He sounded quite different to me in Streetcar or Waterfront. Was anybody trying to make a point here? What with the symbolism of the very phallic throphy and the way it was handled and passed around? And the foaming beer bottles? I had expected this to be rather The tame one, after all, it was 1953, but I had not expected such a weird experience. Almost Fellini-esque.

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The "gangs" were a very Hollywood version of camp actors "butching it up".

Those outfits. Those hairstyles. Who cares!

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Yeah he spent the entire film trying to hook up with that broad causing great harm to himself and his club, sure he was gay.

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i don't think there is a single thread for a single movie were someone doesn't ask 'was (blank) gay'? marlon brando, THE sex symbol of all sex symbols, riding MC in a movie apparently so hardcore for the time that britain gave it an X-rating, getting a$$ and chasing tail and the op asks was he gay?

too funny.


it is better to have a gun and not need it, than to need a gun and not have it

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Sometimes, insecure people feel threatened by such hyper masculinity and have to diminish it by calling it gay so they feel less threaded. I don't blame them,

I think I am taking all of this rather well.

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Just because he is purported to have blown Wally Cox, doesn’t prove he’s gay.

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IMDB board is never complete until, someone (mostly an American) doesn't call someone in the movie, a gay!
What's this fetish with calling people gay?!
Always suspecting of people being gay?

They might be gay or not, wouldn't make any difference but what this particular mentality should be called? Some kind of psychological sickness? Isn't it particularly widely spread in the US? Why? Can anyone explain?
After all, there're gays, all over the world! Americans are too much worried!

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It's called Queer Reading folks and I don't think there's a more appropriate movie to do it for.

Yes, there are serious homoerotic undertones between Johnny and the other BRMC boys, they even dress up as girls and dance with each other.

This isn't a weird observation as these undertones are common in most biker films, for more on that see Kenneth Anger's Scorpio Rising.

In fact Homoerotic undertones are also present in most Westerns and War Movies too because in older times the sexes were more segregated and large hordes of all males often did a lot more experimenting. IN these 1950's films it was completely uncouth to discuss homosexuality so it's all in the subtext.

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More signs of homesexual tendencies for Johnny is sexual paranoia of the girl. When she finally submits to him physically in the forest he acts nervous and she even says "you're afraid of me." Similar psychoanalytic sexual undertones are present in most Film Noirs of the era, especially White Heat, Gun Crazy, and Kiss Me Deadly.

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I think it was emotional paranoia; fear of true intimacy. She submitted, but not the way he wanted. She didn't just want an impersonal cheap thrill; she actually had feelings for him, and vice versa. She wanted to get to know him and figure out what made him tick. That scared him, because underneath his tough guy front, he was vulnerable and didn't have any answers.

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Thanks. I think you're the only one on this thread that gets it. Give this man a trophy!

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I got the impression that his lack of interest towards Britches had something to do with a need to burn bridges with people he used to know and hang out with.

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every movie...
at every movie there is an insane thread about the main character being gay...

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I thought the "everybody is a poof" idea died out in the 1970s.

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