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A lost classic

posted 16 years ago by dodrade
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Saw this on Film4 the other day and was very impressed. The best "western" ever set in vermont!

[–] toxfly 16 years ago

Is it the only Civil Wat film in which the confederates win?

[–] vernc1 16 years ago

Gods and Generals ends at the Battle of Chancellorsville

[–] FranksDaughter13 9 years ago

toxfly

Is it the only Civil War film in which the Confederates win?

I fixed that for you.

Evidently you have yet to see the film if you believe that the Confederates win in it.

Wisdom comes when one learns from one's mistakes (aka LEXYLADYJAX)

[–] hobnob53 9 years ago

Hi FranksDaughter13,

I think the Confederates did win in this film. Their raid succeeded, they got away with the money and plunder they sought, and they were never caught. Clearly the raid on St. Alban's was a Rebel victory and a Union defeat...for all the good it did the South (i.e., none). It might have been a useless win, but still, a win.

Off topic, there's a plaque in the town square commemorating the raid.

[–] FranksDaughter13 9 years ago

Evidently my knowledge competed with my viewing of the film. You're right, they did ride away victorious...but just out of sight when they crossed the border, they were nabbed by the Canadians. The Canadians tossed them all into the clink for the rest of the war.

Wisdom comes when one learns from one's mistakes.

[–] hobnob53 9 years ago

That's true, but the important thing is the North never got them. Better a few months in a comfy Canadian pokey than a noose in a Union prison. Besides which, both Confederate and Union POW camps were notorious hell-holes.

[–] BlondeVixen 16 years ago

<Saw this on Film4 the other day and was very impressed. The best "western" ever set in vermont!>

And the only western set in Vermont!

[–] oldblackandwhite 10 years ago

Not to make too big a point of it, but The Raid is hardly a western. It is a historical war movie. Is every picture where people ride horses and shoot firearms a "western" to you guys? Would a movie about Napleon's campaign in Russia be a western? Someone please post haste notify IMDb staff to change the genre designation of Conflict (1937) to "Western".

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He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good... St. Matthew 5:45

[–] hobnob53 9 years ago

The OP put the word "western" in quotes, so I think he was being facetious, perhaps simply referencing the fact that The Raid, like most westerns, takes place in the 19th century. And yes, has horses.