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Not that my mind is in the gutter, but...


Were the two women implied to be sleeping together toward the end? Because when I saw the movie I figured that sort of thing wouldn't have been put up front in a film this old. I mean it was never seemed heavily implied, but the way they were acting I should think it rather odd if they weren't lovers.

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It would be even odder had they been lovers. After all Signoret was busily screwing over Clouzot, while having an affair with Clouzot's husband - who was in on it. Lovers? Hardly.

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thirteenpunkemos wrote:
> Were the two women implied to be sleeping together toward the end? Because
> when I saw the movie I figured that sort of thing wouldn't have been put up
> front in a film this old. I mean it was never seemed heavily implied, but
> the way they were acting I should think it rather odd if they weren't lovers.

Well, toward the end, Christina dies so it's unlikely that Nicole would have slept with her unless she was a necrophiliac.

As for being lovers before her death, that's been mentioned quite a bit. There is even a scene where the two are in bed together. The pair also fulfills some stereotypical lesbian couplings -- that of the butch "diesel dyke" and her submissive "lipstick lesbian" lover. The French movie, French Twist, is about such a pair: a diesel dyke (who literally drives a truck) and a feminine married woman, whose latent lesbianism is awaken by their chance encounter.

Cluozot himself made the lesbianism more explicit in his 1990's US remake starring Sharon Stone.

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thirteenpunkemos wrote:
> Were the two women implied to be sleeping together toward the end? Because
> when I saw the movie I figured that sort of thing wouldn't have been put up
> front in a film this old. I mean it was never seemed heavily implied, but
> the way they were acting I should think it rather odd if they weren't lovers.

Well, toward the end, Christina dies so it's unlikely that Nicole would have slept with her unless she was a necrophiliac.

As for being lovers before her death, that's been mentioned quite a bit. There is even a scene where the two are in bed together. The pair also fulfills some stereotypical lesbian couplings -- that of the butch "diesel dyke" and her submissive "lipstick lesbian" lover. The French movie, French Twist, is about such a pair: a diesel dyke (who literally drives a truck) and a feminine married woman, whose latent lesbianism is awaken by their chance encounter.

The lesbianism was more explicit in the 1990's US remake of Diabolique starring Sharon Stone.

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Give me a break. Clouzot himself didn't do anything of the sort as he died in 1977.

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Keep dreaming. I promise I won't wake you up.

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I think the lesbianism is implied but not actual because of Christina's strong Catholicism.

Away with the manners of withered virgins

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Catholic girls start much too late, but they do start ;)

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interestingly enough, the book this movies was based upon was about a lesbian couple


They'll hang you as sure as 10 dimes will buy a dollar

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I wondered the same thing. I think it's deliberately left ambiguous.

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That would explain a lot. She only wants to get rid of her husband, she doesn't speak of another man and she seems to like Horner. She doesn't hate Horner for being her husband's mistress so it was probably a dramatic love triangle.

But Horner seemed to love Delasalle (?) more.

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