The unrealistic ending
That's not the way it was! You may have noticed that Claudius was portrayed as a benevolent, Mr. Nice Guy sort of emperor when the fact of the matter is that he was just as bad as Caligula!
shareThat's not the way it was! You may have noticed that Claudius was portrayed as a benevolent, Mr. Nice Guy sort of emperor when the fact of the matter is that he was just as bad as Caligula!
sharebe fair. it was a 1950s Hollywood religious epic entertainment within a very loose historical framework. And if you're unhappy with unrealistic and inaccurate endings, Gladiator wasn't much better in that respect. Don't expect much historical accuracy from such far, enjoy it for the spectacle that it is, the great sets, Susan Hayward pouting and bursting out of her bodice, Michael Rennie being noble, and most of all Jay Robinson mincing and strutting as Caligula.
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That's right--Claudius WAS just as deviant and ruthless as Caligula! The part that really got me is when he(Claudius) ordered the persecution of the Christians to stop. That's absolutely ludricous--that wouldn't happen for several hundred years after that!
share Actually the persecutions of the Christians came AFTER both Caligula
and Claudius. The Christians were just a small band of people in a large
empire and Christianity was just beginning to show in Rome 35-40 A.D.
(the time that this movie was supposed to happen-just after the Crucifixtion
in approx. 32 A.D.). It was Nero who started the persecutions to find a
scapegoat for the burning of Rome. Claudius was actually a little more
mellow compared to his Uncle Tiberius, who preceeded Caligula, Claudius'
nephew). He did many good thing in engineering to help make the lives of
most Romans a little better. He didn't suffer from the mental deviations
of his two predecesors.
He ended up a tyrant though, because power corrupts and absolute power
currupts absolutely.
You've sure got that right--power DOES corrupt!
shareYou obviously haven't been keeping up with your ancient Roman history. Claudius was a much better ruler than his predecessors (which wouldn't be hard, I'll grant you) and was nowhere near as bad as Caligula. His ony mistake was trusting his second wife too much.
shareI guess we haven't been reading the same history books because from all the ones I've read, Claudius WAS just as bad as Caligula!
shareI will buy the fact that we are reading different history books. Caligula was the most evil, licentious, depraved, debauched madman in roman history. Claudius may have had his faults but at least his own guards did not kill him. True his wife killed him, but then that goes with the marriage license doesn't it.
shareTruth is much of what Caligula did was clearly exaggerated, considering the what lies behind the madness I'm actually more Sympathetic of Caligula then I am Claudius.
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Remember the history is written by the winners....as Nero was not as bad he was assassinated by a ruling class and army conspiracy for one reason he cut the military budget to build his palaces...
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So ridiculous robe is, bullsh*t!
shareOh my God! And here's another shocker--Victor Mature wasn't really a Gladiator! Matter of fact, he wasn't even Roman! Good Lord!
Some documentary this turned out to be!!
Ernest Borgnine looked like a APE! And (hehehe) Caligula (Jay Robinson) did anyone get the feeling that Martin Short could play that part like Jay but of course as a parody? I swear, everytime I see this movie,...gears start turning in my head as to do a 'spoof' of sort's with Keanu Reeves as Demetrius,...Martin Short as Caligula,...Rene Zelleweger in Susan Hayward's role,...and bring back Ernest B. Heck he's still alive and acting. That'd be so damn hilarious if done well. Mel Brook's "CAN YOU HEAR ME???" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! Rock On!
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Just reading the words "Roman History" above sent shivers down my spine - flashbacks to tedious hours wallowing in ignorance at school. Now I find it interesting, but I don't know much about it.
The much praised BBC series "I, Claudius" depicted Claudius as bumbling, stammering and handicapped but kindly and wise. Is this not accurate?
No, it is not accurate--like I said he was just as bad as Caligula!
shareThe fact is that none of these films portrayed the emperors as they really were. Tiberius was far from the benevolent figure that Hollywood created. Although one of the so-called, "Good Emperors", Marcus Aurelius actually persecuted Christians (the irony is, his son, Commodus, an evil man, who thought of himself as equal with the demigod, Hercules, did not). If we're going to nit-pick on this film, here's another historical inaccuracy: Caligula was not the first Roman emperor to persecute Christians. That would be his nephew, Lucius Domitius Aherobarbas, or as history knows him, Nero. Yes, Caligula did think of himself as a living god, and even ordered a statue of himself placed in the Temple in Jerusalem (which was never carried out, because of his death). However, some historians have come to doubt the notion of his so-called, "madness", because ancient sources contradict one another. As for Claudius, it was generally thought by members of his family that he was mentally handicapped, because he stuttered and drooled, and as a result, was isolated from the outside world until he succeeded his nephew in 41 A.D. And, he did not allow the insectuous behavior of Messalina go unpunished, as he had her killed. Unfortunately, it was his second wife, Agrippina the Younger (Nero's mother) who poisoned him.
These inaccuries, however, don't take away from the film. What counts is the message, which is what the filmmakers are trying to convey to the audience. The message in this case is that Jesus Christ, not Caesar, was/is God in human form, and it is only through Him that you have eternal life.
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Unfortunately, it was his second wife, Agrippina the Younger (Nero's mother) who poisoned him.
Actually, Claudius married four times. The first one being Plautia Urgulanilla, the second Aelia Paetina who was a sister of Lucius Aelius Sejanus, one of Tiberius' most trusted Praetorian prefects. When Sejanus' plot to kill Tiberius became known, Sejanus, all his friend and trusted ones were executed, including Claudius' wife. Then Claudius married Messalina and after he had executed her for treason he married his niece Agrippina.
And to react on Nelson95's outburst on Claudius being as bad as Caligula: don't always believe everything you read without checking the source material for accuracy. Hundreds of historians will confirm that Claudius was actually a good emperor with some faults here and there. For example, he was too easily manipulated at times. And he was murdered for ambitional reasons from Agrippina, wanting her son to be Emperor.
nelson instead of simply saying "claudius was as bad as caligula", back it up with sources. i have read suetonious' lives of the twelve caesars and claudius is portrayed as a saint compared to caligula!
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