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This film made me angry


this was my first time seeing it in its entirety. I was nominally aware of the general history of it, being adapted from Bizet, and I knew who starred in it, but I hadn't seen the "original", either, so I was coming into this relatively cold.

the performances, the music, the cinematography, costumes, etc., were all top-notch. I wonder what all awards the film won-

But the narrative, especially toward the end, kind of made me angry. It just didn't seem to make sense. Early on, Carmen manipulates Joe. She convinces him to not take her to jail. She deliberately seduces him even after finding out he's got a girlfriend/fiancee. Despite declaring his career ambitions with pilot school, she convinces him to go AWOL and go to Chicago with her on a whim-- but while there, they're both basically broke, and Joe's career prospects get dimmer every day he's AWOL. Then all of a sudden, her attitude becomes that HE's cramping HER style, getting in HER way, holding HER back from "freedom". It's a total 180 without any particular justification. Despite the flimsy nod to being superstitious, ultimately Carmen comes across as recklessly selfish. And Joe, despite being relatively even-headed for most of the film (despite his unfaithfulness), all of a sudden diverts into obsessiveness and murderous impulse (Even the abrupt ending didn't make much sense-- nobody in Husky's camp noticed Carmen being swept away? The janitor who discovers Joe strangling Carmen doesn't intervene himself, but decides to go get some military MP's? Even the strangling itself seemed to last barely 5 seconds before Carmen is presumed to expire.)

Since this was clearly meant to be a tragedy, it seems like more could have been done to flesh out Carmen's character; as it stands she is more or less portrayed as just a good-time girl who scarcely cares about herself let alone anyone else around her.

"With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility"
Stan Lee, 1962

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You need to view the original source, Carmen. This films follows the basic tenor (no pun) of the main characters in the opera.

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hypestyle, I agree with kcycrs-check out the original story.

I'd like to add that the narrative made me angry also. The first time I saw it (without knowing Bizet's Carmen), I was surprised that Joe fell for Carmen. I thought he was in love with Cindy Lou, and then he just abandoned her. I feel that Joe was either naive, or he never really loved Cindy Lou as he'd said.

Unfortunately, there are people like Carmen who only want what they can't have. She sings this in her opening song ("you go for me, and I'm taboo-but if you're hard to get, I go for you...". When Joe was unavailable, she was very much interested in him. However, when he showed how much he wanted her, she was no longer interested. The same with Husky. When he pursued her, she wasn't interested. The reason she changed her mind about Husky was because he could provide her with a lavish lifestyle before death came, as the 9 of spades had predicted.

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I realize the story HAS to pretty much follow the original opera. But for me, translated to black folks of the 1940s, the stereotypes become overwhelming. i love the way the film looks; the old-style Technicolor just can't be matched. But the characters turn me off completely, especially Joe, who exemplifies the black buck, unable to control his libido, who abandons all caution and thought to run away with a strumpet, then because he can't control her, kills her. i hope he had plenty of time to think while waiting for the gas chamber! To a lesser degree,Carmen and her pals are the typical hip-swinging, gold-digging, gum-chewing, mindless tarts, only concerned about a man's wallet and what's below his belt.

May I bone your kipper, Mademoiselle?

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I think we can surmise that sex clinched it. Cindy Lou was probably still a virgin.

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