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Funniest movie I've seen in a while


I was watching this movie in class today (I study film and media science in Denmark) and damn, it's been a long time since I've laughed so hard. Me and my friends were cracking up during the scene where the grandfather and his friend comes home drunk, when the daughter kept saying "Iiiiiih" to everything that was said to her, when that lady towards the end, with the biggest grin on her face, keeps reminding the grandfather that he's gonna be lonely, when you see the baby in the dome... *beep* there was a ton of funny moments.

This was a comedy, right?

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wow, ain't you a idiot

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You are smoking far too much pot.

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lol I just saw it and I agree with you. The women that kept saying 'Iiiiih'. And at the end especially I was like; are you serious?! The guy is lonely and she rubs it in his face. LOL. I missed the baby in the dome, where was that?

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She wasn't "rubbing it in his face," she was making the equivalent of small talk. It's just a cultural difference.

Christ, it's like explaining things to 5-year-olds.



Stuck in purgatory.

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It doesn't matter if it's their culture or not. Very innapropiate thing to say. Let's say you just lost your job. How would you like it if I came up to you and started saying with a smile: 'You're not gonna be able to pay rent. You're gonna starve. Yes you will not be able to pay for food, you will die.'

Even if it's smalltalk in their culture, it's weird in ours.

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I only have the Japanese version of this, so I don't know what the English sub says. But there is nothing offensive in what the women says. Her initial observation about him becoming lonely is simply in response to his children going back to Tokyo. It is NOT about his wife dying. The final time she mentions loneliness just before walking away is a little ambiguous, but it's not offensive. She is showing sympathy with the man by what she says, not throwing harsh reality in his face. It's not like, 'Man! You sure are going to be lonely now!' It's more like, 'I feel for you, being by yourself now.' Obviously, they have known each other for a LONG time, so she has a right, nay an obligation, to show some sympathy toward the man. How can you show sympathy if you just avoid the painful yet obvious fact that the man is alone now?

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I see what you're saying. But the problem was that she had a smile on her face while saying it. I guess it's a cultural thing. I understand she didn't mean to offend him, but in western culture it seems a little weird.

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The Japanese smile a lot when they have something unpleasant to say, especially when it concerns a death. Lafcadio Hearn wrote an essay about this and admitted that the Japanese smile is not always appealing to Westerners. People will tell you of the death of their close ones while grinning. Fundamentally the practice goes back to the idea of not offending or upsetting others, so if you have news to impart that is likely to bother people, you should smile as much as you can to sweeten the bitterness. To foreigners, this just seems phony, but it is a long tradition among the Japanese.

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that's interesting. thanks for the info.

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Could you point me to where I can find Hearn's writings on this matter?

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"Glimpses of an Unfamiliar Japan, Second Series"

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Useful info, and a great Lafcadio Hearn shoutout, btw. The entire movie I was trying to figure out why the miserable, young widow is grinning constantly.

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How would you like it if I came up to you and started saying with a smile: 'You're not gonna be able to pay rent. You're gonna starve. Yes you will not be able to pay for food, you will die.'
lol that post made me laugh more than this movie did. I couldnt help but laugh many times in this movie and I wasn't sure if any of it was intentional. During the ending where she said how lonely he will be I was thinking, wait, something isn't right here. She said it again and again with a grin and he replied curteously. Had I watched this with other people we would all be laughing at that point. I chuckled to myself

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You may be a moron, but at least have the decency to keep it to yourself.

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Your reaction speaks more about you than the actual film.

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I don't understand the rude reactions to this post. The film was indeed very funny in places and I am glad that you enjoyed it, even if only for that.

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You are awesome and so true. We watched this yesterday, as I am studying film and media production, and the drunk part was awesome. For all we know they were actually saying words though, lol.

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