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Some questions [spoilers]


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Somebody already posted this in the goofs section under "plot hole" but it bears discussion. How did Dr. Garven manage to drive out to the ghost town when all the roads around that area had road blocks and checkpoints?

Also, when the bomb went off, the small ghost town was obliterated, and by the looks of it, it was awfully close to the epicenter of the blast. Although the people who took shelter in the mine shaft escaped the force effects of the blast itself, wouldn't they have been subjected to extremely high doses of radiation? *note the dust that came filtering through the cracks in the opening shortly after the blast - I can only imagine it was highly radioactive. So, did they really escape the blast?

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I don't have a degree in fluid dynamics, but it seems that the shockwave would have sucked all the air (which is a fluid) out of the cave and suffocated the occupants. It was still a fun 'B' movie though.

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If it was an air burst there wouldn't necessarily have been radioactive fallout , at least not right away.
Depending on the nature of the rock surrounding the mine it may have shielded them from Gamma rays.

"Knowledge is cheap at any price"

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It is still a great movie in spite of several flaws. As pointed out the mine shelter was open and they were just inside the entrance and it would seem that if not radiation that the blast would have hit them as powerful as it was. And how was the doctor able to get there without running into road blocks was another good question.
Another thing was when they hijacked the first car it would seem that the convicts would have known they needed gas and filled it up. At least check the gas gauge. Back then when a car pulled up to a gas station and parked by a pump it was an indication that the car was getting low on gasoline.

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This was a relatively low yield air burst. I can't make a reasonable estimate of the yield and some of the visuals seem contradictory. After all, it was a movie.

The shot tower appeared to be much taller, several times the 100 ft height of the tower used for Trinity some eight years earlier. This would suggest that they planned a higher yield. However, the car took only a minute or two to drive at low speed, less than twenty miles per hour from within a hundred yards of the shot tower back to the ghost town. The fireball appears not to have reached the ground, so it must have been in the lower tens of kilotons, at most. The shock wave was strong enough to flatten wooden buildings and roll an automobile multiple times, but the photoflash did not appear to ignite the wooden structures, and it certainly should have at least scorched them. The strength of the shock wave suggests several tens of kilotons, unless you consider that they may well have been within a few hundred yards of the hypo center, less that 1/4 mile or 400 meters from the center of the blast. In that case, then the yield may have been even smaller than Fat Man. That is, less than 20 kT.

The horizontal mine shaft appeared to be at a right angle to the expanding shock wave. If the people were only a few feet within the mine shaft it certainly would have protected them from the flash burns, immediate gamma-ray and high energy beta radiation, and probably any residual neutrons that would have been well spread out by that point. The effect of the supersonic blast wave passing the open end of the mine shaft is harder to predict. There would be a sharp increase in pressure that would send a shock wave into the shaft, but it would be greatly blunted by the sharp edge and the rapid passage. Then the low pressure behind the wave front would tend to "pull" air out of the shaft. But this wouldn't last long before return wave went back the other way. The people in the mine shaft might very well survive with little additional trauma, additional to what they had suffered from the criminals.

"Fallout" would not be an issue for at least hours, if not days. That is, the bomb components and material lifted by hot gasses into the atmosphere would come back down gradually over an extended period of time and most of them would be downwind. There would be an increase in local radioactivity due to neutron activation of the materials in the environment. But this would not be a huge increase. Provided that they were recovered by service personnel within a few hours and taken to a decontamination facility where they could strip, shower and scrub, perhaps multiple times, and then receive non-contaminated clothes, they might come out of this in pretty good shape.


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Great description of survivability. Pressure inside the cave never occurred to me, but I figured the cave opening was at an angle where the blastwave couldn't enter. This scene stuck with me since I was five years old...driving up to the tower and the car being thrown about and my memory of a real looking car with people in it on fire, of course when I saw it after these many years, it's a model.

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1 I think the producers want us to believe the promise of a regaining of "lost love" got the good doctor through the perimeter security.

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So, did they really escape the blast?
Put it this way. I wouldn't have wanted to be them scrambling out of that cave entrance.🐭


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Hey Eric! To your two questions:

(1) Yeah, how the doctor got through the massive blockade is never explained. I can only assume it was because he went at night when no one was looking.



(2) Well, as you know, in the 1950s radiation died down to a safe level within four minutes.

In spite of all the scientific analyses offered on this thread, the fact is that the area would have been radioactive and there was no way they could have simply strolled out into the desert without potential harm. Even the survivors say they can't stick around too long, and they expect special military patrols to come through shortly.

Whether they could have even survived the blast in the mine in the first place is another issue. Aside from the possibility that the blast might have sucked the air out of the shaft and suffocated them, the concussion and its possible effects (a cave-in, for example) were other factors that would have come into play.

The reality is the ending of this movie is highly problematic. Hell, the entire premise is -- hiding out in a nuclear test zone and leaving only an hour to get clear? (Which didn't work out too well anyway.) But the film is still pretty tense and a lot of grim fun.

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