Unmoved


I love movies (obviously, I'm posting here) and I'd heard about this film for years and was eager to see it.

Have to admit it leaves me unmoved.

I know that posting that here, for some posters, is the equivalent of painting a target on myself... no doubt enraged fans will "defend" the movie by denouncing me as a Philistine who should return to repeated viewings of "Paul Blart Mall Cop." Whereas that is one of my favorite movie titles of all time, I have not seen "Paul Blart Mall Cop," and I like Charles Boyer, classic films, black and white films. I enjoy hearing Boyer speak French, a language I speak (though it's been many years.)

But I just can't get into this. It's so mannered and distant and cold and slow and I really don't feel any sense of sharing with the main characters. They strike me as having all the depth of paper dolls. They could be guillotined; I don't think I'd care.

I really dislike the lighting. And the dreary, sappy music.

So, why am I posting here ... just curious to see if I can connect with any other film fans who couldn't connect with this movie.

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I just saw this movie for the first time and I loved it, but I understand your response. Like another of my favorites movies, "Barry Lyndon," this film is gorgeous, but detached and ironic. The kind of emotional involvement you're looking for would turn the film into a typical period costume soap opera. In a way the movie is very French; you see the same thing in "Madame Bovary" (the novel not one of the movies). Try watching it again some time, but don't try to "connect" emotionally, but intellectially and visually, and you may have a different response.
I do see your point, though. I don't think you're a Philistine. Different people have different tastes. I love the detached, ironic style. You may not.

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Climber, thanks for your post. I appreciate your not bashing me.

I'm posting a review of the movie now. It took me a while to get up the nerve. If you feel like it, have a look and tell me what you think.

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I like the connection between this film and "Barry Lyndon": both have stories that are pretty ordinary (boring), but the filmmaking (particularly the camera movement in Madame and the cinematography overall in Lyndon) is so intoxicating that it makes them great movies.

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I found it very moving - it's a rather stunning indictment of sexism to me. Louise is considered a "flirt", a silly woman obsessed with baubles and given to faux fainting spells yet she ultimately proves herself more honorable than either of the men in her life - her hypocritical husband who has a mistress yet becomes sadistic when she has a chaste romance, the "lover" who proves despite her feigning love he was quite detached and could it get over it quite quickly.

The lighting was beautiful and the music very romantic - perhaps you just don't like French films or movies of this genre - of which this film is considered a masterpiece.

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In my eyes Louise is shallow and bitchy all over so I'm very intrigued by your remark about her exhibiting some honour, please explain in which scene you think it happened.

I like the General much more. He said he squashed himself into flatness in order to stay in touch with Louise because of love to her, and he meant it: in the end his character regained 3-dimentionality and capacity for strong feelings and decisive though utterly destructive actions.

To the original poster: imho two hours of boredom was necessary for depiction of dull background of rebirth of Generals dignity. The final part of the movie is too short to be taken into account as redeeming so I share your opinion: the movie is unmoving. But it leaves good aftertaste:)

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I have exactly the same reaction as Danusha, except I think the lighting is good. But that incessant waltz, and the repeated scenes, sheesh!

Vittorio de Sica is horribly miscast. Maybe Louis Jourdan?

I have seen only one Ophüls movie I loved, "Letter from an unknown woman." But Madame De, La Ronde and Lola Montes are like whole meals consisting of only meringue.

And don't misjudge me as a young action-movie person. I love some very similar movies, such as "All this and Heaven too" for instance.

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Ha ha! Thank God someone else shares my sentiments on this movie...I could not stand it. I DID see Paul Blart Mall Cop, didn't like that one either.
I sat through the whole movie, and the voice inside my head kept going, "I know you can't stand this movie, why do you keep watching it?" Sorry....I guess one can't like every movie....Like Goska (above), I felt no 'connection' to the characters, although I did admire the camara work.
Someone above mentioned "Barry Lyndon", a movie that many people can not stand, and oddly, I love that movie...even though I see similarities to "The Earing of Madame De"....go figure....

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I have to say I was unmoved as well, although I'm definitely impressed with Ophuls' skill (this is the first Ophuls film I've seen). You can clearly see the influence he had on Kubrick, my favorite director.

Maybe someday I'll watch it again and enjoy it more. After all, I was unmoved after my first viewing of Eyes Wide Shut.

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There is an element of camp to this over-decorated, over-acted film. Like "von" Stroheim, Ophüls loved to overdo it.

As things get more serious half-way through though, I do find it moving, especially the ending.











Snobbery is a form of romanticism, the chastity of the perfectionist

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I very rarely say this, and believe me, I'm not one of those who complains about every aspect of a film. In fact, I can't even recall a movie that I detested so much. Even if I see an awful movie, I rarely resort to descriptive words as "I hate," "mediocre," "pretentious," so I'm surprised to say that I though this film was complete rubbish. It's so melodramatic that I just hated it. I don't know why I'm saying this. I feel guilty...oh, man, I need to shower.

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I was unmoved as well, but I loved all the elements you complained about. The music was great, and I enjoyed the mannered, distant feel as that was the point: to subtly show how all of that was just a veneer to hide the couple's unhappiness. I liked that as the movie wore on, we were meant to peel away all that glitz and realize how things really were. I also liked the characters. They felt like three dimensional human beings to me. The husband had an air of detachment and cynicism that masked deep jealousy and caring. Louise is one of the great, contradictory females characters in cinema. Donati was a bit bland, but that was the point. He was a lonely, by the numbers diplomat who was finally outside of his comfort zone during the romance.

(Spoilers follow.) However, the film disappointed and unmoved me for one, simple reason: it was just too predictable. I knew as soon as Louise had her first fainting spell and it was obvious she had some sort of ailment that she would die, especially since this was an Ophuls film and he liked to kill off his main women. I also knew that Donati and the husband would eventually fight a duel, especially as this was an Ophuls film. And I was certain that the husband, being a military man, would win that duel. So, not even halfway through the film, I had this ending playing in my mind: the husband killing Donati, and Louise either watching and collapsing to her death, or finding out and collapsing to her death. I was dismayed to find out that that was exactly how the movie did end. Too predictable, otherwise a perfectly made film.

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"I had this ending playing in my mind: the husband killing Donati, and Louise either watching and collapsing to her death, or finding out and collapsing to her death. I was dismayed to find out that that was exactly how the movie did end"

But that isn't how the film ends: we only know Mme de... dies. At the time the film is set, it was often the convention for duels to be formalities- the duellists did not even try to kill each other, but fired into the air or at an angle. Equally, even though the General is a fine shot, the duel takes place at long range and he may well miss with his first shot if he does try to kill the Baron. We don't know the Baron isn't a good shot too. In short, either man or neither might die; Mme de... might have died in vain- we just don't know.

I love the film as a sheer feat of mannered virtuosity and the way that- as with the characters- emotions emerge through the formality.

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It's obvious that the husband kills Donati. Otherwise, how do you explain that there was only one shot? Plus, the tip off is when her husband scores three bulls-eyes before the actual duel.

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