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Invasion of the body snatchers?


It seems unjust that that film should be credited with creating the aliens take over human bodies plotline when this film created it 3 years previously. Everyone talks about invasion of the body snatchers as an allegory for communism in America at the time, but it looks like this film did it first!

unless IOTBS is based on a novel?

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I agree. I was thinking the same thing. This film influenced a lot of sci-fi esp. Star Trek.

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Yeah well Invasion Of The Body Snatchers did it much better though. This one´s more like a comedy.



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LOL at the "more like a comedy" remark! It's so easy to watch these films as camp, or (unintentional) comedy.

I don't think so though. I'm sure the makers of the films had a sense of humour and had many laughs at the set, but the films were made seriously enough for them to still be relevant today.

Snatchers is far more successful, which the (at least) three later remarks in a way confirm.

I think IFM is more original in terms of art design, whilst IOTBS has a greater sense of 'horror' to it.

My favourite is Kaufman's 1978 remake of IOTBS. The big city setting (as opposed to a small town of the original) just has a more apocalyptic feel to it, and the very final scene never fails to give me goosebumps!

I have never seen the remake of IFM, have to see it one day though.

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I would think it pretty obvious that this film was not, in any way, meant to be a comedy. But I think the different treatments between this and IOBS are worlds apart, and speak for the different themes and intentions of the film makers.

It's pretty common knowledge that IOBS was intended to be an allegory about the cold war and the threat of people losing their individuality, presumably under Communism. (Same goes for Jack Finney's original book.) Certainly it was appealing to one of our most basic fears, that of losing our identity, and security vis a vis being able to trust those we knew.

IFM, on the other hand, comes across as a child's nightmare (even without the US version's framing device), with the emphasis upon that basic fear, first and foremost. It's garish, it's colorful, it's preposterous...and, to a kid, it's terrifying. It's science fiction's version of a kid's nightmare...just as "Night of the Hunter" is noir's version.

That isn't saying that everyone didn't have the cold war in mind as a secondary theme, just that it wasn't its prime motivation. (Similarly, it's obvious that IOBS had those primary fears in mind, as well...in fact, the film couldn't work without them.)

As we grow older our nightmares change. One could say that both films expressed very eloquently one of our worst nightmares...just from the viewpoints of two different ages in our lives.

By the way, I would mildly disagree with your notion that '78's IODB was superior to the original because of the big city locale, I think it's quite the opposite. There is more of a tendency to overlook people in big cities, to consider most of them as being soulless non-entities to begin with. (To advance reasons for why that is would go way beyond the scope of this thread!) On the other hand, in a small town everyone tends to know each other.

Living in Chicago, I don't even know my next-door neighbors, and if they were taken over by aliens last week I wouldn't know the difference. But put me in a room filled with nothing but people I'm well acquainted with, which would be analogous to people from a small town, and I would sure as hell notice some differences if some of them were suddenly pod people! I think that's probably why Finney (and Siegel) placed the original IOBS in a small town to begin with.

(Of course, the black and white was perfect for the original, as well. Color did the story a disservice.)

For the record, I've also heard many criticisms about the third version, "Body Snatchers," along those same exact lines, with the additional disadvantage of having the story take place on a military base, where everyone is supposed to become indoctrinated to losing their identities and becoming "soldiers" in the first place...although I've always enjoyed the changes they made to the story there in trying to make it fresh. At least it's a fun ride!

(I've never seen the most recent version, so I can't comment on it.)

By the way, loss of identity and fear of having ourselves or loved ones taken over by outside forces was quite a common theme at that time (and yes, I'm pretty sure this one was the first...unless you want to count all those vampire or whatever films from the 30's and 40's where the heroine is helpless under a hypnotic spell...but those, at their best, are more allegories for obsessive love, and lust). "It Came from Outer Space," "It Conquered the World," "The Beast with 1,000,000 Eyes," and no doubt others I can't think of offhand, all dealt with the subject, though not as eloquently as either of these, of course. Capped off with the brainwashing of "The Manchurian Candidate," an equally terrifying film!

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Jakedog-1, I agree about the similarities of the two films, but that is only on the surface. The manner of the mind takeovers is where the real difference for me occurs. In IOBS, you never see a true alien. The mind take over seems to happen subtlety and telepathically. Just like communism vs. democracy during the cold war days, it was a battle for the minds of people. Even if countries fell behind the "Iron Curtain", it was their minds that the communist still fought for. It was hard to fear the actual pods; it was what they represented that was the real fear.

Invaders from Mars portrays a flat out alien invasion that physically grabs unsuspecting people down the sand pit and surgically implants a mind control device into their brain stems through a surgical procedure at the back of the neck. The scene where this is portrayed is one of the most frightening in all of sci-fi movies. It is a movie not about the battle of ideologies, but one of us against the aliens. Wipe out the aliens and you wipe out the threat. There is no ideology that would live on.

So, I don't feel that IFM is really an allegory for communism, but a physical battle between planet earth and alien invaders that are intent on taking over our world. IOBS is more about a battle of ideologies.

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<<unless IOTBS is based on a novel?>>

It was. A short novel by Jack Finney, one of the finest sci-fi writers of the mid-20th century.

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Yes, though the novel was first published in 1955; two years after Invaders from Mars was released.

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Invasion of the bodysnatchers is a better film.

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Yeah.

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