I just picked up a copy of the soundtrack and it appears that there are several scenes cut from the final version of the film. Where are these scenes? If Sony plans to reissue this title I hope they invest the time to add these scenes as a bonus feature. In addition an isolated M&E track would be a nice added feature.
shareWait, soundtrack? Where did you find THAT?
And I would love it if a new release included deleted scenes.
The soundtrack was released in the U.S. June of 1977
The Track listing is as follows:
Track listing
1. Opening Credits / Butterfly Ballet (04:56)
2. Ten Happy Fingers (sung by Mary Healy & Tommy Rettig) (01:00)
3. Piano Concerto (Ten Happy Fingers Variation) (01:00)
4. Dream Stuff (sung by Peter Lind Hayes & Tommy Rettig) (02:30)
5. Hypnotic Duel (sung by Hans Conried) (01:33)
6. Get Together Weather (sung by Hans Conried, Mary Healy, Peter Lind Hayes) (02:11)
7. Because We're Kids (sung by Tommy Rettig) (01:48)
8. Dungeon Ballet (06:08)
9. We Are Victorious (sung by Chorus / Dr. T's Soldiers) (02:29)
10. Elevator Song (sung by the elevator operator) (01:35)
11. Dressing Song - Do-Me-Do Duds (sung by Hans Conried & Chorus) (02:42)
12. End Credit (00:22)
TRACKS 13-23: Outtakes (Recorded, but not used in flm)
13. My Favorite Note (sung by Hans Conried) (01:57)
14. Oh! We Are The Guards (sung by Chorus / Dr. T's Soldiers) (03:03)
15. I Will Not Get Involved, Part 1 (sung by Peter Lind Hayes) (00:41)
16. I Will Not Get Involved, Part 2 (sung by Peter Lind Hayes) (00:22)
17. Grindstone (sung by Peter Lind Hayes) (00:44)
18. Money (sung by Peter Lind Hayes) (01:04)
19. Terwilliker (sung by Hans Conried & Mary Healy) (00:54)
20. I Will Not Go To Sleep (sung by Hans Conried) (02:48)
21. Many Questions (sung by Mary Healy) (02:12)
22. One Moment Ago (Chorus) (00:31)
23. One Moment Ago (Orchestra) (00:32)
The amazing thing is that the film is almost Wall to Wall music and yet only 43:02 is on the soundtrack. The film clearly has a seperate music and Effects track. Boy wouldn't that be a nice addition to a DVD!
Where did you get your hands on a copy of the soundteack? I've been looking FOREVER.
I'm always dreaming of a feature-packed DVD release.
Keep in mind the released soundtrack does not contain the complete ELEVATOR SONG. The complete song contains a verse for the THIRD FLOOR DUNGEON. If you listen to the track there is an obvious and rather hidious cut omitting that verse on the soundtrack both in the film and on vinyl.
The actual song is as follows:
FIRST FLOOR DUNGEON
Assorted simple tortures.
Molten lead, chopping blocks
And hot boiling oil.
SECOND FLOOR DUNGEON
Jewelry department.
Leg chains, ankle chains,
Neck chains, wrist chains, thumb screws
And nooses of the very finest rope.
(**THIRD FLOOR DUNGEON
Household appliances.
Spike beds, electric chairs,
gas chambers, roasting pots,
and snapping devices.**)
BASEMENT DUNGEON--
EVERYBODY OUT.
I just watched the DVD and there was no third verse to this song. If there was a cut I didn't notice it.
shareThe Third verse appears on the original soundtrack recording, you know... cd or l.p. And there is a very definite cut in the music at the point the verse is removed. Watch again and pay attention this time!
share"Keep in mind the released soundtrack does not contain the complete ELEVATOR SONG. The complete song contains a verse for the THIRD FLOOR DUNGEON. If you listen to the track there is an obvious and rather hidious cut omitting that verse on the soundtrack both in the film and on vinyl."
Yes, there is a cut of the above-mentioned verse. I have the complete audio track for this -- can't remember where I got it, though. My guess is that the studio found it a little "un-PC" with the references to "electric chairs" and "gas chambers."
"The dogs may bark, but the caravan passes on."
"un-PC"? What does that mean?
sharePC = "politically correct." Many things that used to be mentioned or dealt with head-on are avoided these days or called something else under the delusion that it somehow makes it more acceptable, more appealing. Example - garbagemen became sanitation engineers. Bums & hobos became homeless. So his comment meant that in the 50s, it would've been OK mentioning electric chairs and gas chambers because everyone knew they were bad things to be avoided (IE, "Don't kill someone or you'll get the chair!") but today, those terms are avoided because everyone knows it's not the killer's fault they did it - they didn't get anough love in their childhood or Grampa got a little tipsy one night and he & Gramma had a helluva time, but that's the reason why Uncle Johnny turned out bad. It's not he got no discipline and didn't know right from wrong - no, it's not his fault...
shareMike, did you watch it early this morning, too, on TCM?
share"(**THIRD FLOOR DUNGEON
Household appliances.
Spike beds, electric chairs,
gas chambers, roasting pots,
and snapping devices.**)"
Hi, I listened to this again and heard the last line as "scalping devices," rather than "snapping devices." Anyone else have an opinion?
"The dogs may bark, but the caravan passes on."
I tracked many of the lost elements to a vault in San Diego. The recording masters, original script and tons of concept art. I'd love to know if Joe saw this copy or just heard the rumor.
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I wonder what shape these elements are in? It would be nice to see Kramer's version of the film. Thanks for the info. I'm glad to here these elemets are still around and not "lost." It's time to get those elements transferred into a digital medium before they rot away. I hope it is not too late.
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Didn't sound to me like Dante was implying an extended cut was ever released anywhere -- just that the movie went through a variety of production nightmares, and the studio demanded numerous cuts and reshoots. Most scripts average 90-130 pages, but the original script that Seuss submitted for Dr T was a whopping 1200 pages! It's doubtful that any of the extra footage still exists, and if it does, it'll probably never see the light of day. Here's something of interest on the subject which I found on TCM's website:
Hans Conried once said of The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T, "That was the film that might have changed my life....The Americans have never made a really successful fantasy, although of course this was a comedic one. The picture was badly cut in fear of the reappraisal after it was made, even if it was evident to those knowledgeable but inartistic heads of studio that it might have been an artistic triumph rather than a financial one. But in an attempt to make it one, they cut over 11 musical numbers and re-shot for one whole week. I had never had any such part before, never have since and probably never will again. We rehearsed for eight weeks before I was engaged to shoot for eight weeks, an extravagance that I as a bit player had never known....If it had been a success, with my prominent part in the title role, it would have change my life."
Here's the full article:
http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/article.jsp?contentId=88136