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This film is far from the maddening crowd


I grew up in the 60s and 70s. When my parents used to talk about these movies, you could see a twinkle in their eye and a smile on their face. They even sometimes would give a little soft-shoe like, "Oh, Gene Kelly! Oh..." mmph, mmmph, dum, dum, dee, dum.

But when I watch them, like this one, I just don't get it. No one breaks into song in real life, everyone seems like they got this big, fake smile plastered on their collective faces, they run over furniture doing stunts, tapping and singing along the way.

I am not clinically depressed and for the most part, I am an optimist by nature. But the singing, smiling, tapping and dancing do nothing for me.

How could my parents truly enjoy watching these films and not see through the craziness of them? Does not liking this film and others like it make me an evil person? Or perhaps merely irrational?

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In a free country, you have the right to watch and like any movie you want.
But you DON'T have the right to disparage anyone whose tastes differ from yours!

I love this movie and its so-called "craziness", but it was a musical, not meant to be taken seriously, and I never did.
As a matter of fact, it's a great escape from the seriousness and miseries of real life.

You really need to get off your high horse!

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"Miseries of life?" "Disparage anyone?" I'm not sure how you think I'm disparaging anyone here. I'm talking about how ridiculously corny Singing in the Rain - and many others like it - are. And for what it's worth, there's a movie made 13 years earlier than this one - Wizard of Oz - that I absolutely adore. The songs, story and acting are marvelous in WOO.

But Singing in the Rain is just pure corn...and ridiculous corn at that.

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I'm talking about how ridiculously corny Singing in the Rain - and many others like it - are.





But you're making that statement as if it's an undeniable fact, and it's not; it's merely YOUR opinion. And it's perfectly valid as opinions go, but it doesn't overrule or negate how anyone else feels. "Singin' in the Rain" is often cited by film historians as the best movie musical ever made because they didn't find it "corny" or full of "craziness" - no, they felt it examined a period of Hollywood history with wit, affection and exceptional talent (both in front of and behind the camera).

You're also slipping into generalizations with the phrase "and many others like it." What, exactly, are the "many" films you're referring to? Because "Singin' in the Rain" is highly regarded precisely because it WASN'T considered typical of the standard movie musical the industry was churning out during the 40s & 50s.

In your original post, you said "No one breaks into song in real life" - well, of course not. And you know why? Because it's real life. However, movies AREN'T real life, and neither are movie musicals; they are heightened reality. So yes, in a film musical you will find individuals running "over furniture doing stunts, tapping and singing along the way" because that's one of the conventions of the genre. And most film audiences understand that.

You also asked "How could my parents truly enjoy watching these films and not see through the craziness of them?" The answer is simple. They were able to accept the conventions of a film musical and appreciate the quality of the work that went into them.

So no, there's nothing wrong with you because you didn't like "Singin' in the Rain," just as there's nothing wrong with your parents (or anyone else) who felt it was a first class musical. It's simply a matter of taste; in other words, different strokes for different folks.

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often cited by film historians as the best movie musical ever made because they didn't find it "corny" or full of "craziness" - no, they felt it examined a period of Hollywood history with wit, affection and exceptional talent (both in front of and behind the camera).

Hmmm, talk about generalizations and opinions? They felt? I hate to break it to you but historians have been wrong too. As a matter of fact, there's a certain president (don't want to get into politics here) who the so-called historians and experts thought was inferior. But if you read the other side of it, you'd be amazed that he pretty much kept the world from WWIII. Not once but twice. But he never receives that credit from the mainstream crowd. So which side was right?

The same with movies. Yes, it's my opinion that I think SITR is corny, just like it's the experts' opinions that they don't because, to use your word, they "felt" it showed a slice of what it was like during film's transition from the silent era to talkies. OK...great. I guess.

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Hmmm, talk about generalizations and opinions? They felt? I hate to break it to you but historians have been wrong too.




So what, exactly, are you saying? Are you claiming that film historians are WRONG because they don't share your opinion? Wow - if you wanted to make yourself look intolerant, you couldn't have done a better job.

And no, referring to "Singin' in the Rain" as the best movie musical ever made is not a generalization; it's simply the opinion expressed by the members of the American Film Institute -

http://www.afi.com/100years/musicals.aspx

Just because you don't share their opinion doesn't make them "wrong."

This isn't a question of "right" or "wrong," like misidentifying the people involved in the film's production. If you said "Singin' in the Rain" starred Bing Crosby, Judy Garland and Frank Sinatra, you'd be wrong; it stars Gene Kelly, Debbie Reynolds and Donald O'Connor. Nor can you say the film was directed by Alfred Hitchcock & Sam Peckinpah; that would also be wrong, because it was directed by Gene Kelly & Stanley Donen. But there's no "right" or "wrong" when it comes to expressing an opinion on whether the film works or not; you have an opinion about "Singin' in the Rain" that's perfectly valid, even if it isn't shared by the members of the American Film Institute, or the IMDb voters (who gave it a rating of 8.3 out of 10).

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This film is not to your liking that's all. You would have to pay me big $$$ to watch one film that was about "James Bond" "Harry Potter" "Vampires" "Hobbits" or "Superheros"


I don't get the appeal of those movies. That doesn't mean they are bad. To me those films are a major chore to watch!

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Because Superheroes fight aliens in real life, and animals can talk. Why is a musical faulty for being unrealistic, but fantasies and Disney movies get a free pass? It's all just genre.

And FYI, I'm a HUGE fan of sci-fi and fantasy movies, as well as musicals, and also more realistic films. But the "people don't break into song in real life" argument is absurdly invalid.

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If you don't like musicals fine don't watch them. I avoid Tom Cruise films because I don't like him. I am sure his movies are great to people that like him.

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There's too many fourth wall moments in movie musicals. I like the third walls only in movies.

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You are probably reacting to MGM's typical annoying overproduced style, and one too many close up mug shots of Gene Kelly, and yes, pure cornball story, and old dated songs mostly written years earlier. It's okay but overdone....that's all.

RSGRE

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Obviously a troll!

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It's the sheer un-realness that makes these movies enjoyable.

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The expression you were reaching for is "far from the madding crowd", not maddening. But what does that have to do with "Singin' in the Rain"?

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