Best Western?


I watched this film again the other day. I have always considered it to be the best western made, but I'm not so sure anymore. What do people think?

joyfital

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I've only viewed it once, over a year ago, and the setup and psychology of the film are tense, razor-sharp, and as dangerously coiled as a rattlesnake waiting to strike. I remember the ending as being overly sentimental, though, and I don't consider the somewhat naked The Naked Spur the very cream of the crop. In fact, I probably prefer the more robust Winchester '73 as my favorite Mann/Stewart Western, even though I haven't seen it in over seven years.

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I guess I like The Naked Spur because it doesn't have to be a Western. The story revolves around five characters that could work in any setting. But this very reason that makes me like it may be the one that makes others dislike it.

This is probably because I am not a fan of westerns for themselves. I'll watch any genre of film if the plot sounds good or the cast is appealing.

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I think this is definatly one of the best westerns, on the top ten.

As far as "best" western that'd probably have to be The Searchers.

My favorite's probably "The Good The Bad and the Ugly" though.

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My favorite western of all time is Sergio Leone's "Once Upon a Time in the West." I am also a big fan of Kevin Costner's "Open Range." On the other hand, my all time favorite actor is James Stewart, so if he's in a western, I'm ready to make popcorn.

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You like Jimmy Stewart + Westerns, huh? Have you seen The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance? Jimmy Boy punches John Wayne in the FACE.

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Try all of the other Mann/Stewart Western movies; WINCHESTER 73, BEND OF THE RIVER, THE FAR COUNTRY, and THE MAN FROM LARIMIE. They all have simliar plots and are just good stories in a Western theme, that is what makes them great. This stories could have been made into any genre.

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I like all those you have mentioned, except 'The Man from Larimie', which I know I hate, but I forget why. I get it confused with the two other Stewart westerns I don't like. But I've always found 'Bend of the River' and 'The Far Country' too similar, including a couple of near identical lines! So I still think 'The Naked Spur' is miles above. I think my second favourite Stewart western is 'Shenandoah', even if it is depressing. Well, I suppose 'The Naked Spur' is too, because they both have lots of death, but the people who die in 'Shenandoah' are compeletly inncoent, unlike in 'The Naked Spur'.

JoyFital

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You should watch THE MAN FROM LARIMIE one more time. The first time I saw it I thought it was terrible, the second time I saw it I thought it was great. Though, if your going to watch again make sure you watch the widescreen version, the full screen version does not do it justice.

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I think this an excellent film and definitely deserves more credit. One of the best westerns ever made. A 7.4 on IMDB is too low a rating IMO, I believe it deserves at least 7.8.


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This is definatly one of the best westerns ever made and my personal favorite Jimmy Stewart performance. It made me feel as though he was constantly struggling with right and wrong. In many ways, he is the "bad guy".

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I think it should be considered among the best westerns ever made. I also believe it's the best western James Stewart made with director Anthony Mann (and they sure made some great ones).

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Having watched Shenandoah again recently, I think maybe I prefer that but it isn't technically a western, because it is set during the American Civil War.

JoyFital

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Breakheart Pass, The Shootist, The Cowboys and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence are my all time favs. The Naked Spur does not sit perfectly with me as a Western in the true sense. It is beautifully filmed with engrossing dialogue and tense emotions. Perhaps there should be another genre for movies like Spur, Dances With Wolves, Little Big Man and A Man Called Horse. Except for the studio backdrop, the original Stagecoach also prayed on the mental emotions of it's charachaters.

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You need to change your perspective on your criteria, missrljane.

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James Stewart and Anthony Mann made some fine westerns together, but among my own all-time faves are The Searchers, Rio Bravo, Ride the High Country, My Darling Clementine and Vera Cruz. However the genre has so many gems it makes it difficult to choose the best. Stick to all those you love and don't try to elevate one above the other. Very difficult to choose between, say, Cheyenne Autumn and Shane because of the disparate themes. Both are classics in their own right.

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NOT the BEST western of all time, but one of the best 10 (which is a lot, since literally 1000´s were made!). I would rate it soemwhere between # 5 and # 10 (see my comment on "OUTLAW JOSEY WALES").

I absolutely agree to the opinion by the 2nd poster, joekiddlouischama" (a guy who obviously likes the Eastwood western Joe Kidd :-)) ).

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Definitely makes my top ten of the Western genre, but nothing touches High Noon. Can you envision the Western that should have been made teaming Gary Cooper and Jimmy Stewart?

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i really liked it but it's not my favorite but then i like a lot of westerns. as far as anthony mann westerns i liked one of his other ones with jimmy stewert "winchester '73" more. that being said the performances all around were very good in this one. stewert, janet leigh and robert ryan were great.

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I have seen 3 of the Mann/Stewart Western collaborations (I haven't seen The Far Country and Bend of the River). I gave both Winchester 73 and The Naked Spur 9 out of 10 but I think The Naked Spur is a better 9 probably because so much of the film is on location. I think The Man from Laramie is not in the same class.

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"The Far Country" is one of my very favorite westerns. It has so much appeal and cherishes the myth of the cowboy. A great saga with a wonderful ending!

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I would have to agree about The Searchers being the best Western ever made, and I also like Winchester '73 better than TNS. If I'm being honest, I think part of it is that Stewart is my favorite actor and in this film he shows a lot of personal weaknesses which probably bother me a little. In Winchester '73, he is very single-minded and dead-set on his purpose--so I probably find that more appealing. TNS is a great film, however, and deserves a much higher rating in my opinion.

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It's one of the best. Here are a few I consider better:

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly,
The Assassination of Jesse James by The Coward Robert Ford,
The Wild Bunch,
High Noon,
The Big Country,
For A Few Dollars More,
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre,
Unforgiven,
The Great Silence,
One-Eyed Jacks,
Rio Bravo,
Buffalo Bill and the Indians,
McCabe and Mrs. Miller,
Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid
Warlock
Ride the High Country
My Darling Clementine

And does Viva Zapata! count? If so it's nearly at the top!

And then there are many which are about as good. For example: Django, Blood on the Moon, Dodge City, Companeros, Hellbenders, The Shootist, Silveraldo, Last Train from Gun Hill, Open Range and the ever so surprising There Was A Crooked Man... should definitely be mentioned.

Of course there are hundreds of great westerns. A fabulous genre!

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I think the OP needs to be directed to the message board for Holiday Inn.

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