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This is THE "Moulin Rouge"


...and there is NO other! The other "Moulin Rouge" pales in comparison! The Jose Ferrer version is a more beautiful looking, haunting, and better-acted film than the Nicole Kidman one!

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Are they actually meant to be the same film though? Don't they have different plots? I haven't seen this one, but this one has completely different characters in it....

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I am a big fan of the 2001 version and can't wait to see this. It was just released on DVD and I got my copy in the mail today (9 bucks from DeepDiscountDVD.com). I watched the trailer and it looks GREAT! While some of the artistic styles look the same, both films don't have the same plot. This is based more on the 'real' people who inhabited the actual Moulin Rouge in Paris in the 1800s, while the remake seems to be about fictional characters, except for Henri Toulouse-Lautrec, who was played by John Leguizano in the newer version. Either way, this seems very much worth checking out for fans of the remake.

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What currency/origin country is DeepDiscountDVD??

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Toulouse-Lautrec was not technically a dwarf; he broke both legs as a child and due to a genetic disorder, the bones didn't heal properly, stunting their growth. His whole body was completely normal except his legs. I've read that the disorder was probably caused by his family's inbreeding (his parents were first cousins).

And the 1952 version is not a musical. There are a couple songs in it, but just in a "this person is singing a song; let's listen" way, not a "I'm going to express my thoughts and feelings through song and you're going to act like that's normal" way.

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Well, now it's settled! Someone who hasn't seen John Huston's wonderful 1952 film has demonstrated that the 2001 movie of the same name could have no relationship to it, because Huston didn't hijack the playlist from a lite-FM radio station for the lip-sync's.

And the later film is purely original, even though Kidman's role is an amalgam of Jane Avril and Marie, the prostitute that inspires and exploits Lautrec in a variation on "Orpheus and Eurydice."

And there could be no relationship because the 1952 film treats the tormented genius with sensitivity, and the 2001 version portrays Lautrecas a flying monkey from "The Wizard of Oz."

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The 2001 version is loosely based on the opera La Boheme, at least that's what I've always heard. It is not a remake of this film.

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And "La Boheme" was based on "Orpheus anf Eurydice."

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I believe Rent is more based on La Boheme than Moulin Rouge . Just adding my two cents .

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The 2001 version is an adaptation of "La Dames aux Camélias".

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the moviemakers did some build up to that scene where he at first was sitting there at the table, then he stands up. quite a powerful moment. i thought the moviemakers almost had to have exaggerated it. i didn't know there was a remake, but i know of the movie with the similar title, bored the heck out of my buddy, i haven't seen it myself. also, as i understand it, isn't that a musical? this doesn't seem to be a musical. notice some here says it wasn't a remake though.


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i couldn't agree with you more. the baz luhrman version is as horrible as his version of romeo and juliet - it's like moulin rouge-via-MTV, which is just gaudy and mind-numbing

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Luhrmann's "Moulin Rouge" is no remake of the Huston movie. this 1952 "Moulin Rouge" is based on the life story of the real Toulouse-Lautrec, as romanticized in "Moulin Rouge" book written by Pierre La Mure. Luhrmann made up a story that seems like some sort of crossover between Dumas' "La dame aux camélias" and many other fictionalized stories of the era. a small role of Toulouse-Lautrec in the 2001 version was given to John Leguizamo.

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There is, nor should, or can, there be any comparison. The films are very different in function and purpose.

Also, if I had not been with a young lady who paid for the tickets I would have walked out on the 2001 version. In my opinion, everything that has gone wrong with our culture, our society, was on display in the overblown piece of dreck.

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