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The 'pornography' of the movie


It was either 1959 or 1960 when my brother, sister and 2 neighbors friends when our parents dropped us off at our neighborhood movie house for a Saturday afternoon delight, cartoons, 3 Stooges, 2 movies and 50cents apiece for soda, candy and popcorn. We were there to see The Voyage of Sinbad and the 2nd flick was The Greatest Show On Earth. That night our parents were visited by our next door neighbors friends' parents who were angy that they took their children to see the Greatest Show on Earth, our family were "liberal Baptists" and they were "conservative Catholics", we were using the term of the times, Negroes and they were "All Americans", they had never had a problem with our ethnic differences before but it turns out that this movie was on the Catholic do not see list because of the skimpy attire worn by many of the circus performers used throughout the film.

This caused a riff between the families, even though our parents apologized despite disagreeing, the other parents were angry because although they were told their children were going to see Sinbad, they didn't know what was the 2nd feature. I can't recall if we did or not, we knew about Sinbad though as it was the talk of our cousins and friends, adults and children, we were from 7 to 11 years old. After that us pre-teens had little contact and then next summer the family moved across town from the intergrated side to the all-White part of Pasadena. Interestingly after high school both of our neighbor's children became hippies, wild in the streets. the girl became an unwed mother at 18 and her older brother eventually became a 2nd rate rock musician and moved to Oregon. I haven't seen nor heard from either one of them since the late 70s. My younger brother and sister like myself are all happily married family oriented home owners still living in our home towns

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The guys seem to show more than the girls, namely Cornel Wilde continually shirtless!

"Don't call me 'honey', mac."
"Don't call me 'mac'... HONEY!"

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Besides the close ups of the scanty costumes, the Catholic Legion of Decency (and the Catholic Church) was unhappy about the sympathetic treatment Buttons was given in the film considering he was a "mercy killer" in hiding. Thus, the "condemned" rating the Legion gave the film. It upset DeMille considerably at the time.

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and now this movie seems so innocent...funny how times change. Sigh.

To the op - I can relate. I was best friends with a girl down the block who was two grades younger than I. When I started junior high, her mother purposely ended our friendship, because she didn't want her daughter having the "bad influence" of an "older" girl. And yet - I went on to have a college degree and a respectable career, while she, unfortunately, got pregnant and 16, had to drop out of high school and get a shotgun wedding. Her marriage was brief and unhappy.

Again, sigh. Maybe I should try looking her up on FaceBook.

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Today Buttons would've been free, with death panels and physician assisted suicide.

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The mentioned "death panels" are every bit as fictional as Buttons the clown.

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"Fictional"? No. Not really. They're simply cleverly diguised, and the "reality" of their effect will become more and more apparent over time. Self-interest exists everywhere, even among bureaucrats and politicians. Do I need to cite examples? So, an individual's self-interest in his own health has been shifted, by law, to the self-interest of a bureaucrat whose own self-interest lies in budget-based "attaboys" and/or promotions and raises from on high. The older and sick individual (a faceless stranger to the bureaucrat and an unlikely voter) now has to "ask" the career-motivated bureaucrat for "permission" (the money needed and an "available" doctor) to pursue the means necessary to save his life -- or improve the quality of his life ("the Pursuit of happiness"). . . Quite a reversal of the previous American philosophy -- "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", etc. as being God given (or nature given, if you prefer) - and emphatically and specifically NOT government given - "rights". Those bureaucracies sound a lot like "death panels" to me! Btw, all authoritarian/totalitarian systems world-wide, and throughout history, have preferred the control available to them through such systems, which you are pleased to call, naively, I think, "fictional". Eg., the "commies" do it always and everywhere. Do I need to cite examples? . . .

Remembering, too, that this "radical" approach was ushered in without a single vote from any opposition party and without formal debate, and energetically promoted by a president who has stated repeatedly (in his books, for example) that he's not exactly unfriendly to the totalitarian imperative of community (the government) "uber alles".

Sorry to be so long-winded, but the importance of this festering disaster cannot be overstated, imo.

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Unfortunately, it is the perpetual meddling of narrow-minded parents, that
sometimes continue to propagate and nurture prejudiced ideas and attitudes among the young!

I am a BORN AGAIN/DIED IN THE WOOL/AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE/WE WILL
SERVE THE LORD/BAPTIST CHRISTIAN!

I saw this as a very young child, and thought nothing of the scantily
costumed performers. Even I knew the aerial performers couldn't do their
stunts wearing 100 lbs. of clothing covering them from head to toe!

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!

This is a fun movie that everyone can watch. My 5 year old grandson
absolutely loves this movie because of the animals, and is doubly
fascinated when they are trying to wrangle them all up after the train
wreck.

I like the way CBD, gives us some documentary on what goes into
producing and running a circus...very interesting and rewarding
viewing!

"OOO...I'M GON' TELL MAMA!"

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"Interestingly after high school both of our neighbor's children became hippies, wild in the streets. the girl became an unwed mother at 18 and her older brother eventually became a 2nd rate rock musician and moved to Oregon."

It looks like their parents were correct after all. If their children had not seen this terrible movie the tragedy quoted above never would have happened.

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..........It seems like a strange thing for families to get into a fight over..........First of all did the average Protestant family, during the sixties,know what was on the Catholic League of Decency's condemned list unless there some sort of scandal that made the front page. This isn't Ingrid Bergman ad Rossellini having a real life affair while making Stromboli. This is high wire performers waring tight clothing in a circus movie; not something likely to singe the moral conscience of America.........In the old days the League Decency did strange things like the condemnation of "World With Out End", a sci fi movie about time traveling astronauts trying to rebuild civilization after a future nuclear war, because the title violated the church's believe the world would in fact end some day. Definitely not amusing was their divisive condemnation of the 1964 Holocaust movie, "The Pawn Broker", because of some in context nudity. In fairness in modern times may Catholic organization often give awards to movies about the evils of racism and antisemitism..........It is interesting the children who were raised in a strict environment ran into problems later on. I know from personal experience if your raised values, even in an imperfect world, you usually turn out alright. If your raised with inflexible rules that don't make sense ultimately you will try to rebel against them and that can be trouble.
TAG LINE: True genius is a beautiful thing, but ignorance is ugly to the bone.

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I don't understand why that family was okay with "Sinbad", which showed dancing girls and women in Arabian Nights type costumes, but was upset with "Greatest Show on Earth." Oh well.... I remember hearing a lot of lectures at that time that comic books, blue jeans, hot rod cars, and Elvis Presley music would cause the world to come to an end.

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It wasn't whether the movies were really objectionable it was because the Catholic Church said they were CONDEMNED.

Most Catholic children of that era never saw a condemned movie so we never knew what horrors it contained. Our childlike imaginations just took the word CONDEMNED and figured it meant unspeakable horrors.

I wish at the time that an explanation was included but that would have opened the door to people making up their own minds about what was objectionable and you weren't "allowed" to do that.

I'm sorry that these families quarreled over something that seems meaningless now. I'm sure it didn't seem trivial to them at the time; they truly thought their kids had been exposed to something they shouldn't have seen.



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This is a fun movie that everyone can watch. My 5 year old grandson
absolutely loves this movie because of the animals, and is doubly
fascinated when they are trying to wrangle them all up after the train
wreck.

If anything they should've had a problem with Sebastian trying to get Holly in bed, that scene in the hay loft.

Anyway what did they think one would see if they went to the circus?

This is a fine film corny yes maybe a bit overacted but a good story.

Funny how the four circus films from the 1950s to 1961 highlight Trapeze acts
TGSOE, "Trapeze", "The Big Circus" "The Big Show"

See some stars here
http://www.vbphoto.biz/

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Hilarious !!

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Why did anyone take any notice of the Legion of Decency?

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Idea for film season on TV or at NFT - movies condemned by the Legion.of Decency.

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