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Daniel Siu Chong Liu: Cop. Trailblazer. Actor. Okay, Cop.


Just clicked on the link to Honolulu Chief of Police Dan Liu's IMDb page.

Born in Honolulu February 13, 1908. Died in Honolulu July 18, 1986. Full name, Daniel Siu Chong Liu. First Chinese-American Police Chief of an American city, from 1948-1969.

Instituted the department's Chaplaincy Corps, Canine Corps, and Activities League.

All of which go to explain his involvement with Big Jim McLain.

Activities League: Formed a theater group where talented off-duty policemen acted in the department's Christmas and "Shakespeare on the Beach" shows while waiting for a movie company to fly in and have a casting call for the character of a Honolulu Police Chief.

Canine Corps: In case the film turned out to be a dog.

Chaplaincy Corps: When all else fails, pray for an audience.

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Hob, you're terrible.

Seem to be coming down with a cough. Sure hope it's not the plague from my book.

Anyway, I was looking up an actor that I saw in an episode of Sheriff of Cochise that I knew I saw in this movie, so I looked it up on the cast list, and there he be. His name, in case you are interested, is Hal Baylor. He was the one who used the racial epithet in reference to chopping cotton.

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Yeah, Hal Baylor. I happen to be watching another movie with him in it right now, The Young Lions. He's a Nazi there. (Update: I take it back. He's a violent anti-Semite in the U.S. Army. Typecasting: the peril of all actors.)

It's not surprising they had a Commie utter that line and word. Hollywood never really knew how to depict real-life Communist or Nazi spies. The studios usually fell back on something tried-and-true audiences could identify with, namely, the good old American gangster. It was a quick and uncomplicated way to convey cinematic nastiness and they could readily ascribe all sorts of distasteful character traits to them, however unlikely or unrealistic. They always showed the spies more concerned with things like money and acting like thugs instead of being clever or dedicated ideologues.

In this case, a real-life Communist wouldn't have used the "n-word" since racism was against Communist racial teachings. But it served as a useful foil, not only to show the Reds as racists and hypocrites, but to take the sting off of HUAC, whose members included some of the most vicious racists and anti-Semites in Congress, notably John Rankin and Martin Dies, as well as a higher-than-usual quota of Congress's imbeciles, crooks and demagogues.

Anyway, back to Honolulu's Police Chief. I think Wayne-Fellows Productions originally intended to hire an actor to play the part, but when they saw how realistically stiff Chief Dan was, they decided to use him in Liu of a professional.

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I notice that Baylor almost always played the heavy, and usually the people he portrayed were quite often dim bulbs.

Anyway, back to Honolulu's Police Chief. I think Wayne-Fellows Productions originally intended to hire an actor to play the part, but when they saw how realistically stiff Chief Dan was, they decided to use him in Liu of a professional.
I saw what you did there. Very clever; very clever, indeed.

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Maybe the ghost of Chief Dan is after me, because tonight every time I go to make a reply there's a warning from IMDb to make sure all my posts are in line with their rules in section 2 and that I may be punished according to section 3, which includes having all my posts eliminated and my account permanently blocked from posting. But I have no idea where I committed some offense or what it was!

So if I suddenly vanish please tell the boys on Secret of the Incas what happened! (Really.)

Meanwhile, I'm sorry, Chief Dan.

In fact, I'm...so sorry!

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Maybe the ghost of Chief Dan is after me, because tonight every time I go to make a reply there's a warning from IMDb to make sure all my posts are in line with their rules in section 2 and that I may be punished according to section 3, which includes having all my posts eliminated and my account permanently blocked from posting. But I have no idea where I committed some offense or what it was!

So if I suddenly vanish please tell the boys on Secret of the Incas what happened! (Really.)

Meanwhile, I'm sorry, Chief Dan.

In fact, I'm...so sorry!
Wow!!!!!

I wonder what it was. I will be sure and let the chaps at SOTI know if anything happens to you. I hope it doesn't, of course.

Not much happening in my neck of the woods. I had started the final MS of a book that I had finished years ago and am about halfway through with the re-write. This story takes place in a small Kansas town which is very real. Its' chief claim to fame seems to be that it is the birthplace of the minor actor Max Showalter. He also went by the name of Casey Adams and actually had leading roles in a couple of films, one of which was the 1956 number called The Indestructible Man.. My mother actually knew him and and she said that while Max was a whiz at the piano, he was a lousy actor.

Anyway, I just stopped the re-write for some reason and I have got to get that done so I can print it out and proof it.

Anyway I hope that you and Catherine are doing well. I am doing fine.

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Well, so far, so good. I wish I could figure out who and how to contact at IMDb to learn what my alleged transgression was. I haven't found any recent post deleted and have no clue what might be considered a transgression.

For the rest, I'll do a PM when I get a chance. Thanks for being willing to tell my friends what happened in case I do evaporate!

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We might disagree on politics and a few other things, but I still think of you as an honest, decent person, and consider you a friend.

Just curious, but I recall from the SOTI board that you were thinking of getting a gun for target shooting. Did you ever do that? I understand that outside NYC they are a lot easier to get than they are inside the city.

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"We might disagree on politics and a few other things, but I still think of you as an honest, decent person, and consider you a friend."

Me too you, as we sat in post-apocalypse New York!

Hey, I'm under threat of suspension from IMDb and you're asking me to talk about guns?! Although considering their emoticons:



No, I haven't done that yet.

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Hey, I'm under threat of suspension from IMDb and you're asking me to talk about guns?! Although considering their emoticons:



No, I haven't done that yet.
Hey, I talk about guns all of the time here, and have yet to be admonished by the Powers That Be. I have even started threads on them and posted on already-existing threads. On one board about a Stephen King mini-series, there is a thread about goofs in the book, and a good third of the posts are about firearms errors that King makes--and he makes a TON of them. (I guess that would be TONNE to our mutual friends from across the pond.) So, unless the comment was purely tongue-in-cheek, you need not fear the wrath of IMDb on this basis.

Anyway, there is an awful lot to choose from, so if you decide that you want to do it, I'd be happy to advise you on what makes and models to consider.

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Thanks, friend. As Gregory Peck said to David Niven in, appropriately, The Guns of Navarone, I'll keep it in mind.

Chief Liu would be proud.

My warnings disappeared the other day. I'd still love to know where and what my alleged offense was.

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