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Beverly Hillbillies Mansion


Did anyone notice it was used for the Embassy?

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Wrong

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Precisely, but for Kramm and Dorset.

What is the sound an imploding pimp makes?

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It certainly looked like the same exterior and gate, but is there anyone who knows with certain? The thing is, they say at the start of the film that they used the same exteriors in Turkey as the ones in the actual events. I would guess they had to use this exterior because the real one wasn't available.

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I do not know about places in Ankara but the scenes in Istanbul the German building with the Nazi flag was this:

http://www.seffafgazete.com/site/1/uploads/o/2012/26/812909cfdd2dbbe8cf85bb5be25b3f65.jpg

It's actually old municipality building in Beyoglu.

Following scene with Galata tower at the end of the road is just a little down this building. But they go there by car : ) Knowing the exact places is fun but only this...

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The building in the film was in Turkey, but if you look at The Beverly Hillbillies it's obvious that the two buildings and the grounds around them in fact don't look anything like one another.

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It's such a rare instance in which a correction can be made to one of your comments, but in this case, the OP is correct: the Kirkeby Mansion was indeed used in the establishing shot for the British Embassy.

The film's up on YouTube (for the time being, anyway):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ArNYrQRRLI

The house appears at about 13:40.


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You know, I think you're probably correct (although you're incorrect about it being a "rare" instance regarding me). Studying that portion of the film it does look like the Beverly Hillbillies mansion, though to me it doesn't look precisely the same -- which I put down to an unclear memory of the latter, or more properly, looking at the same site in two different venues.

However, what annoys me is that I should have realized that the mansion seen in that shot could not have been in Turkey, for one obvious fact -- so obvious it escaped me. In that nighttime sequence, we see James Mason returning to the "embassy" -- a distance shot of him approaching it, then a close-up of him going through the gate and shutting that.

Now, all of the scenes filmed on location in Turkey were establishing shots, mostly filmed at a distance, of various Turkish sites. This includes all the shots of the characters actually in the locations shown -- except they weren't the cast, but doubles for the actual actors, none of whom went to Turkey. This was all second-unit stuff. You can see that none of the actors is ever seen in close-up while plainly in Turkey; the close-ups are all studio inserts matching the locales seen in the establishing shots. Therefore, Mason could not possibly have been seen -- as he clearly is, even at a distance -- if that sequence had been filmed in Ankara.

So I guess the OP (and you, as usual) were right. But is that also the BH mansion in the scene (at about 1:17) where, after Diello triggers the alarm and runs out, we see Micheal Rennie look out the window and watch him running away through the garden? It looks like Mason's double, not Mason, running away. Of course, they could have employed the double to do the sprint back in Beverly Hills. We don't see the mansion itself in that shot, and while the grounds look similar, from that p.o.v. I can't be certain that it's the same estate (in America).

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But is that also the BH mansion in the scene (at about 1:17) where, after Diello triggers the alarm and runs out, we see Micheal Rennie look out the window and watch him running away through the garden? It looks like Mason's double, not Mason, running away.
Can't say whether it's Mason or his double, but it actually is a reverse angle of the same location. Those gateposts with the stone lions (or dogs or whatever animal they are) on top - and the attached gatehouse - are as recognizable as the oppressive "reich nouveau" architecture of the home. There are clearer views of both on this page of frame grabs from TBH, High Society (with a matted-in phony roofline), Cinderfella and Disorderlies:

http://www.iamnotastalker.com/2012/11/13/the-kirkeby-mansion-from-the-beverly-hillbillies/

Perhaps I, like the architecture, was a trifle severe just then; it wasn't really designed by Albert Speer, but by Sumner Spaulding, who was responsible for more tasteful structures such as Harold Lloyd's "Greenacres" estate and Avalon's Casino building on Catalina Island. But it was commissioned by Lynn Atkinson, one of the engineers in charge of building Hoover Dam, so maybe that's indicative of something or other. Story goes his wife hated the place and refused to live there, so it was sold (or lost as a gambling debt, depending on the source) to hotelier and real estate mogul Arnold Kirkeby.

Of course you know the story of James Mason's own connection to a legendary westside palazzo not a mile away (as the crow flies) from the Kirkeby estate, and the part he and it played in the resurrection of one of films' comic geniuses.


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I've noticed the similarity between the Jed Clampett estate and that in High Society but never realized it was in fact the same place. Highly disappointing, since they shot background plates in Newport, R.I., that they didn't use a genuine Newport mansion for the joint in the movie.

Luckily the film at least featured Louis Armstrong and not Flatt and Scruggs.

Of course you know the story of James Mason's own connection to a legendary westside palazzo not a mile away (as the crow flies) from the Kirkeby estate, and the part he and it played in the resurrection of one of films' comic geniuses.


Of course I don't -- nothing that rings a bell anyway. Please?

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Luckily the film at least featured Louis Armstrong and not Flatt and Scruggs.
"Now You Has Bluegrass" hasn't quite the same ring (nor do I know of any Newport Bluegrass Festival). Now, if they'd set in in N.C. and called it The Asheville Story, they could have used not only F&C but Biltmore as well (the roofline of which is suspiciously suggested in that HS frame grab).

Anyway, the broad strokes on Mason: in the mid '50s, after he and Pamela had bought the palatial B.H. estate Buster Keaton owned while married to Natalie Talmadge (which can be seen in all its glory in the Keaton talkie Bedroom, Parlor and Bath), Mason discovered a mysterious vault attached to a neglected garden shed while exploring the property. The shed had originally been Keaton's at-home editing room, and the vault was full of cans containing prints of Keaton's films, some of which had been thought to be lost.

As it happened, Keaton had recently entered into partnership with exhibitor/collector Raymond Rohauer to acquire rights and elements to Keaton's films for distribution, and Mason turned his trove over to them. Many have questioned or criticized Rohauer's ethics (into which I won't go here), but he was instrumental in the preservation of the work of Keaton and others, transferring to safety stock titles existing only on nitrate and putting that work once again before the public.


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