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Wow, what a bitch Barbara Rush's character was.


The world is about to be destroyed and soon as some good looking guy comes along, without even a word to him she breaks her fiancée's heart, and starts smuggling up to that guy. She came off very unlikeable.

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Oh, so when the world is about to end, you're supposed to NOT do what you really want, NOT be with who you really love...

She didn't come off as a bitch at all. People's feelings change, that's just life. She didn't go out of her way to break his heart.

Maybe someone around here has a chip on his shoulder about a recent breakup?

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Yes, feelings change, but it's the way she treated the other guy. I could see if he was a real jerk, but he was a nice guy who was in love with her. They were engaged to be married! He didn't deserve to be treated that way. But soon as some hunky blonde guy comes along who she hardly knows, without one word to him, she's gone. If that's not a bitch, then she's certainly one of the most insensitive women I've ever seen.

And as far as a "recent breakup" goes, nah... you're reaching. It's just an objective observation. If you can't see there's something wrong with what her character did, then maybe you're just as shallow as she is. We're all human beings and we all deserve to be treated with RESPECT!

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Aren't we taking this just a little too seriously? Ya think?

But, hey, I'm bored so I'll play along.

It's just an objective observation.
Joyce was engaged to Tony; that's an objective observation. Joyce broke up with Tony; that's an objective observation. She broke up with him after meeting Dave Randall; ditto. She broke up with Tony because she fell for Dave; well, that's an inference, not an objective observation, but it's still reasonable.

Therefore, she's a bitch... Nothing objective about that statement at all. It's completely subjective, and again, it's an inference, not an 'observation'.

Sorry, I just don't follow your logic. People, even engaged people, fall in love with someone else all the time. It sucks if you're the jilted one, but you seem to be saying Joyce should have married Tony simply not to be a 'bitch', not because she actually felt she was in love with him. That's a pretty piss-poor reason to marry someone. If I ever found out that my wife actually wanted to marry someone else, but chose me just because she thought she had an obligation to marry me (no children, no joint ownership of a home, nothing like that; just because she once said she would), I, personally, would be pretty disappointed. I'd feel pretty useless, to tell the truth.

Marry the person you love with all your heart. Not the person everyone else thinks you should.

Joyce seems to me to have handled a difficult emotional situation about as well as can be expected. Tony doesn't seem to have held it against her. In fact, he's the one who got Dave to go on the journey, just for her sake! Or did you forget about that point?

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Whoah... indeed we are taking this, like way too seriously. And somehow you've misunderstood, and consequently distorted most of what I said.

Look, she could've just said something as simple (though crass) as "he's in, you're out", and we're not having this conversation. But instead she said, "you figure it out, pal". Now that's a bitch for you.

but you seem to be saying Joyce should have married Tony simply not to be a 'bitch'
That's ridiculous. No I'm not.
Joyce seems to me to have handled a difficult emotional situation about as well as can be expected.
Yeah, by not doing anything. LOL
Tony doesn't seem to have held it against her.
Which illustrates my original point. He was a nice guy who didn't deserve to be treated that way.

Let me make it easy for you: if the roles were reversed, and some hot young blonde showed up, and Tony dropped Barbara Rush like a hot potato, how do you think everyone would react, particularly the women in the audience. They'd think he was a serious ass and would hate his guts for it! Not because he refused to marry someone he didn't love, but that he didn't even try to BREAK IT TO HER IN A KIND AND SENSITIVE WAY!

Read my posts again. That was the point I was trying to make, and somehow you totally missed it. If you're engaged to marry someone, respect them and respect yourself. Tell them to their face. "It's over. I've found someone else." There's nothing wrong with that.

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I agree. She was a bitch. A shallow, spoiled, uncaring bitch. The Doctor was much nicer, better looking, and smarter. The doc is better off without her.

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There is nothing wrong with what her character did there. What would be wrong is if she had married the guy without loving him, and actually loving another. now THATS wrong.

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If you can find them you need to read both When Worlds Collide and After Worlds Collide. In When Worlds Collide they have enough metal to build a second larger Ark which meant there was no need for leaving anyone behind. And in After Worlds Collide Barbara's character does end up with Tony. Dave Randall flies the larger one that ends up crashing and killing some of the people in it.

They find that the planet had been inhabited and there were domed cities scattered around the planet. Perfectly preserved from the ice. They find Dave's crew and enter the closest city. While there they find that the previous inhabitants were human too. They also find out that a British Ark and a Ark filled with Communists and militant Japanese had also made it to the planet.

I won't go into anymore of the books. They are a great read and I have reread them many times over the years. And I hear that a remake is in the works. I wonder if it will do the original justice.

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There is nothing wrong with what her character did there. What would be wrong is if she had married the guy without loving him, and actually loving another. now THATS wrong.
I agree that's wrong. But he was her fiance! Don't you think she should say SOMETHING?

And she conducted herself like a whore.

She just saw the blonde guy, and she wanted him. She based her decision purely on his looks. She didn't even take a moment to get to know the guy!

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Yep, she was a bitch, but I'd spank that a$$!

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the least she and randall could have done was to set up tony with the blond who was on the airplane at the beginning of the movie. then, everyone would have been satisfied.

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I'm just 20 minutes into the movie, but had to see if something like this was being discussed. My guess: Tony wasn't so great in bed, once something potentially better came along, all plans were off. Very risque for 1951.

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She might have been a bitch, but at least she should have found that hot blonde on the airplane and set her up with the guy she dumped. Then everybody could have been happy.

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It seems some people on here lack basic comprehension skills.
I'm guessing mostly female at the way they are ignoring what the op wrote and justifying her behaviour.

She was a total bitch. A flake and the doctor was better off without someone so cold and callous to him and his feelings.

Falling for a guy she only spoke to once in a taxi and not not bothering to break up with her fiancee.

I'll explain what has already been explained a few times on here yet again and lets see if certain people can understand.

So she fell for a new person at less than the drop of a hat.
That's a flaky thing to do and the doctor is better off without someone who will run off and probably cheat so quickly.
Now she is free to be a flake and that reflects poorly on only her but the what makes her a complete bitch is the fact that she never broke up with the doctor.
Instead she strings him along and gives him the cold shoulder but as usual in these tired and redundant love sub-plots the man doesn't act like women do in these situations in films and throw a hissy fit, curse her out and use hit her but instead acts maturly but like a pathetic love lorn puppy.
Never standing up for himself.

There would be no discussion if the genders were reversed about what a prick the man would have been and she was exactly that. A prick but must shoehorn a crappy, poorly thought out love story where more plot could've been.

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It sounded to me like Joyce and the man she was engaged to had already been having problems. She might have previously tried to break things off with him but it was not shown in the movie. Rather than thinking the worst of this character, why not just think about the fact that some things might not have been explained in the movie? Also, you talk about having respect, but you are not respectful yourself. You use an expression about someone(doesn't matter if it is only a character) that is ignorant and crude. In case you did not know, a bitch is a female dog and not something any human should be called.

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