Why is this movie liked?


This is a seriuos thread. For classic movies to me its very much a hit or miss deal, and this one was a miss. I do not understand how would this movie get to TOP 250. Heck, how could this movie even be above 5.
So some fans may try to enlighten me. I am always open to new ideas, but so far i just cant see what is good about this movie at all. It feels poorly written, overacted movie that isnt so much a movie as filmed stageplay (seriously, the sets didnt do much for adaptation) with pretty much no likable characters.

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Why does anyone like Machete Kills, Despicable Me, Curse of Chucky? Because not everyone likes the same things.

A Streetcar Named Desire was originally a play and there was no reason to change the set. There are a few lines changed for language and the ending was changed due to Hollywood standards and practices of the era. Future versions of this will be true to the script, per the playwright's will (with the exception of productions with a predominantly black cast, which Williams approved in his lifetime).

This film is noteworthy for Marlon Brando's performance, as his career was made by being cast in the stage version in the first place. It swept the Oscars that year, and continues to be the definitive version despite changes required to suit the moral climate of the era. It depicts human conflict, both within and without in each character. That the characters aren't likable is not important; what is important is that they are real.

You don't have to like it, but you do need to realize that others will and will have valid reasons.


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Because not everyone likes the same things.
I understand that full well. i want to know why they liked it.

So the reason people liked it was because Marlon Brandos performace was good?

You don't have to like it, but you do need to realize that others will and will have valid reasons.

That was exactly what i was asking for - those valid reasons.

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Read the rest of this board for answers to that question.



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So i take it you can provide me with none?

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This board can provide all the answers, but judging by the list of where else you post you only seem interested in baiting anyone who is here.

This will be my last post in this thread and you will be ignored from this day forward.



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I post in a lot of different boards, just because i have seen other movies does not mean i am baiting you somehow.
Apparently you cant give me the answer thought, but instead of admitting you start ignoring me. Get off your high horse. It only makes you look like a butt.

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While it admittedly can't compare with SMURFS 7: THE BLUE REVENGE, many consider STREETCAR one of the best film adaptations of a stage play ever (largely because it retains much of the cast and the same director).

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So the movie was liked because it kept same actors as a stageplay?

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I suppose much depends on how much you rate the original play. I have taught Streetcar quite often over the years and use this film a lot because it captures the tone and atmosphere of the original play, as well as much of the original script. The dynamic between Brando and Leigh crackles with tension and you can almost feel the humidity of New Orleans in the summer. Blanche Dubois is one of those top roles for an actress, and Vivien Leigh pulls it off superbly; you can never relax because she is so convincing as a woman on the edge of a breakdown. Brando is the perfect Kowalski, all brooding sexuality and machismo. The potato faced Karl Malden is perfectly cast as the hapless Mitch and he gives the finest performance of his career. The photography is excellent, too - so glad Kazan made it in B&W.

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Tennesee Williams' writing has an almost cult-like following. His plays are an English major's dream because they're chock-a-block with meaning. To me the movie is intense and I will watch it but not because it's such a fun movie.

It's a story of the brutal triumph of reality over dreams and fantasy.

I think it reads better than it plays on film. A stage production could show it better.

The movie was filmed in the 1950's - a time when censorship was still rampant, and the fact that Blanche's young husband was homosexual could not be broached, although it's clear enough in the written play. That is also the reason that the ending of the play is different, having Stella leave Stanley. In the actual play, she stays with him. She is in effect, his prisoner of war. The loss of Belle Reve, is actually the destruction of the Dubois sisters' "beautiful dreams."

I think that in a way it's deliberately overacted. You had the powerhouse Brando and the powerhouse Leigh. It's unfortunate that Leigh unraveled almost point for point as Blanche did, but she conveys the embodiment of loss.

It is difficult to like the characters. I think that Williams did this deliberately because it forces the viewer to look past it to motivations.

I didn't see it as poorly written. I think he conveys a great deal with few words. The "deliberate cruelty is not forgivable" has served me well at various times in my life.

I think the point of this was to illuminate the brutality of deliberate cruelty as embodied by Stanley. He is the least attractive character and Stella is the epitome of a spouse who's beaten emotionally and verbally and we even see him strike her. He has conquered her. Blanche is a bit harder to break, but he eventually does. He is a brute, a vicious gossip and a merciless conqueror.

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Thank you. This is the type of responses i wanted when creating this threat, instead all i got before was people telling me that i should watch smurfs (terrible movies btw) or that its good becasue they say so. You however explained it quite well and i can see some of the points your making.

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I forgot to add tht memorable line: "We've had this date from the beginning."

The sexual tension between them was palpable from their meeting. They each knew what was inevitable. In a way, Blanche wanted him because she felt he would "validate" her. There is a part where she tells him that she knows he'd like to hurt her as she hurt her young husband, yet in telling Mitch the tale, she tells him that her accurate assessment of who her husband really was, and his inability to love her - a woman - destroyed him. In essence she felt that she, as a woman, had failed as a woman.

Thus the cat-and-mouse game with Stanley. I don't think she ever wanted Mitch; he was in a way a mama's boy and I think she thought perhaps he was as weak as her husband.

Stanley is the epitome of brute fore, almost caveman-like as she herself describes him to Stella. Whether he took Blanche by force or she gave herself to him - they both knew earlier it was destined to happen.

"Stella for star" - should be the polarizing element for both of them. Stanley professes his need for her in begging her to never leave him. I don't ever hear him tell her he loves her. She is having their child, and submits to him because like Blanche,in some dark way, this excites her. She says as much when telling her sister he took her shoe and smashed all the lights in the apartment on their wedding night.

The musical background adds to the almost tropical heat we envision in the French Quarter; blues and jazz abound so I wonder if it's 9th Ward, one of the poorer parts of New Orleans parish. Stanley is content to live in a dump; and we realize how much Stella has compromised her ideals. He even brags that he pulled her down symbolically from the columns of her home, even though he feels cheated that the plantation itself went into foreclosure (I'm presuming that, since it was lost to mortgage as we're led to believe).

Stella for Star is tarnished and Blanche's purity/white light is dimmed.

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I Agree With The Original Poster.I'm Watching It Now With My Wife ; 40 Minutes Into The Movie,An We're Considering Using The DVD As Coaster.

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I just watched this movie yesterday for the first time.

I had watched Blue Jasmine before, and while I loved Cate Blanchett's performance, the movie as a whole was meh.

Other than that I had no prior knowledge of the play, had only seen Brando in The Godfather, and had only seen Leigh in Gone with the Wind.

Already 30 minutes into the movie, I was in love with it. It was the tension between Blanche and Stanley that got me. I got literal goosebumps in one scene. Throughout the movie, I was convinced that one of them will kill the other, so I was not surprised by the rape scene.

I also found Blanche rather intriguing. I figured out early on that the script and characters are not the same as Blue Jasmine, so I was very curious to find out what made her what she is. What made her even more fascinating is, when she finally told her story to Mitch, I had no idea if she was telling the truth or making it up.

But like you said, Classics are a hit or miss deal. I, for one, never got the fuss over Casablanca. I was bored watching it, and I don't understand how Bogart got that Oscar when Brando was in the competition with this performance.

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ritamilo pretty much hits the nail on the head, its a true classic.

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Just watched this movie for the first time today. Here are my guesses for why people watch it so much:

1) This movie was born from a highly rated Broadway play. Success on Broadway does not equal success in Hollywood, but no matter how well this film was shot, it was guaranteed to get a huge audience of play enthusiasts checking out the movie adaptation.

2) Several big name and future big name actors/actresses were in the movie. Many people watch this to see Brando's origins. Many people at the time watched it to see Leigh because of the big name appeal.

3) Hollywood continues to put out remakes and Broadway continues to produce it. People watch those and then go back to the original.

4) Some of the elements have gotten more intense as time goes on. Brando beating women and acting violent was more common 50 years ago, but now it is very unacceptable.

Here are my reasons for why it is well regarded:

1) Brando and Leigh both played very dislikeable characters, but they played them spectacularly. There was really only one set, and this film was primarily driven by their acting.

2) The personalities are very complex. There are no clear villains and heroes in this movie. It is very easy for the audience to both hate and love Stanley and Blanche at different points in the story.

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