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Vivien Leigh's character...annoying?


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Disagree. She is mesmerizing.

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I agree with you. She made the film. How can you not feel for her. She is a woman trying so hard to retain something that is basically a facade. She plays the part in such a way that you can see through her and see this fragile, broken woman underneath. It is probably one of my favorite performances by any actress ever.

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I don't feel anything for her, she's a *beep*

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I agree with you. Everytime I watch her I cry. I can't help but feel sorry for a woman who has been striped of everything.

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Hi.
When I first saw this film years ago I thought she was intensely annoying; her craziness, her inability to focus, her sensitivity real or feigned; it all annoyed the hell out of me.
Then I grew up and had a life and I recognized her for who she was; a deeply disturbed, emotionally fragile woman of intense intellect.
So you wouldn't be alone if this is how you perceive her.
I also found Karl Malden's character rough and rather course. Now of course I love his character.

I intend to live forever. So far so good.

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"I grew up and had a life and I recognized her for who she was; a deeply disturbed, emotionally fragile woman of intense intellect."

I just watched the movie for the first time and felt this about her exactly.

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Stanley & Stella's performances were great ... Blanche's, WAY OVER THE TOP!

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I agree that her character is annoying, but I absolutely love it because of that. Blanche is such an intriguing character, even if she is annoying.

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her acting was way too theatrical but i must admit she drew me in a good couple of times.

However, calling it one of the best acting performances ever is simply laughable. Her gestures and intonations were all too obvious.

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This character, more than any other, is completely comfortable with theatricals and over-the-top dramatization - Blanche is hugely disturbed, and goes through life as if it's a bad play.
I agree with you on Vivien's acting, but for this role it's actually perfect!

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I agree with you, acboolsen. Blanche is simply a theatrical, over-the-top character, who is often putting on a blatant facade, and because of that, I feel that Viven's acting is outstanding. In my opinion, the over-dramatic gestures you see is not so much Vivien playing Blanche, as it is Blanche putting on an act.

In other words, it looks like Vivien is overacting but when you take away the fake-y crazy gestures and expressions, what you get is not Vivien, it's Blanche.

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I agree. Leigh's performance may have been great - for its time, when acting was all about showmanship and theatrics. But one of the greatest performances of all time is laughable. Cate Blanchette in Blue Jasmine being case in point. I think it is obvious Woody borrowed from Streetcar, and Blanche and Jasmine are in very similar situations and suffering from very similar problems. Imagine if Blanchette had played Jasmine like Leigh did Blanche - the performance would have seemed ludicrous. And imagine a performance like Cate's Jasmine being how Blanche was performed by Leigh - just thinking about it gives me chills as to how scary it might have been with more realism. Leigh was good for the time period - the performance does not at all hold up as the greatest if all time by a long-shot.

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That's just not, to my mind, a very accurate summation due to the fact that Leigh is playing Blanche's theatricality and not her own.

To re-do Blanche and take away her theatricality is to missplay the character. Her realism is in the magic she tries to create and the fact that her delusions are so grand are what make her memorable now and always.

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My sympathy for her is very limited. She is a child molester. Her cruelty toward her husband led to his suicide. And she is a habitual liar and manipulative. From the time she arrives at Stella and Stanley's apartment, she uses every ruse and wile to destroy what little happiness her sister has found - to bring her down to her own miserable level.

One can acknowledge that she is fragile and damaged without feeling sorry for her. She is not a victim (until she is brutalized by Stanley, that is). She acts deliberately, out of envy and misplaced pride, and tries to hurt her sister - the last person to whom she can turn.

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Yes, she is irritating but that is the role and it was perhaps done as well as it could be. It is not a realistic acting performance. It is "put on" and projected much as Scarlett O'Hara was as opposed to Brando's Stanley which came across as far more organic. Nonetheless, Leigh succeeds in getting strong reactions so it is successful.

She is destructive, firstly of herself but also of everything around her. Stan is not be forgiven for brutalizing her but she insulted and antagonized him and disrupted his life to the point that something was bound to give eventually. She is the fuse to everyone's powder keg.

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"Blanche putting on an act. "



Indeed. 'Blue Jasmine' by Woody Allen takes out the most drama-sadness-tristesse.

In Streetcar Named Desire 1951 it is more sad, but somewhat balanced.

In the 1995 version with Jessica Lange i found the role VERY annoying. I felt a slapping would be in order ;-) he switching into a husband-seeking, flirting and 'upperclass' and phantasy attitude is more obvious.

I was semi-shocked to learn that there was a streetcar line named "Desire". All the booze and pills in T. Williams life, was gay and the fact that he had a sister.

More like a nightmare-movie now....

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"Blanche putting on an act. "



Indeed. 'Blue Jasmine' by Woody Allen takes out the most drama-sadness-tristesse.

In Streetcar Named Desire 1951 it is more sad, but somewhat balanced.

In the 1995 version with Jessica Lange i found the role VERY annoying. I felt a slapping would be in order ;-) The switching into a husband-seeking, flirting and 'upperclass' and phantasy attitude is more obvious.

I was semi-shocked to learn that there was a streetcar line named "Desire". All the booze and pills in T. Williams life, was gay and the fact that he hád a sister.

More like a nightmare-movie now....

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Totally agree. I found to be an incredibly unsympathetic wretch. Bascially every character in the story was a lout in one way or another.

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IMO Vivien Leigh absolutely nailed Blanche DuBois' descent into madness. I'd like to know more about the sisters' lives in growing up. For instance, Blanche was waited on by her younger sister Stella who, in many ways, seemed the caretaker and older sibling. Did Blanche always live in a fantasy world? Why did Stella choose an abusive, hot tempered husband and actually seems to be turned on by his brutality or the aftermath of his tirades. Why did Blanche compulsively depend on the "kindness of strangers"?

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I think Blanche had to depend on the kindness if strangers because once someone saw through her lies and that who she really was was far from what she pretended to be they lost the urge to be kind to her. Also it appears Blanche just uses people and once someone realizes this they no longer want to allow her to use them. But basically, only strangers who don't know Blanche at all have an inkling to be kind to her of help her.

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