The Sublease


In previous posts about this episode, there have been debates as to who was right in
the initial argument about Ricky profiting on the Mertz's apartment. I think Ricky and
Lucy had a TON of nerve, and should've not only consulted with Fred, but offered to
split the profit, long before Mrs. Hammond suggested it.

New topic: I enjoyed this ep last night, and as funny as it is...I've come to realize how
MEAN Lucy and Ethel are in their staged shoot-out! This also could've had them
thoroughly investigated by the authorities, and the Mertz's SUED for resorting to such
a ploy to break their agreement with Mr. Beecher. I'm sure Mrs. Hammond raised an
eyebrow!!

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I think Lucy and Ethel were counting on the fact that Mr. Beecher was so shell shocked from the trial that he'd never say a word to anyone about what happened. He did not want to become the witness in another murder trial. I assumed that he ran and never looked back. If he did ask Mrs Hammond to find him another apartment, I'd guess that he told her that he simply didn't like the apartment after all and make up some bogus reason why.

As far as the Ricardos making a profit, I'm on their side and think that Fred and Ethel were being spiteful and greedy. After all, it WAS in the lease that the tenant could sublet. Of course it also WAS with the approval of the landlord. I think Fred put that clause in so he would have final approval on new tenants, no matter how temporary they might be.

The clause didn't say that the tenant could only ask for a certain amount of rent money. From all I've heard about subleasing, people are able to get an amount above what the normal rent is. If Mr. Beecher was willing to pay and the Mertzes were getting their rent money, how were the Ricardos in the wrong?

Ricky posed basically the same question and Fred replied that maybe it wasn't wrong "but it sure was lousy." That just meant he wanted a cut of the money because he was envious.

I look at it this way. Say that your car breaks down and you have to rent one for several weeks to get to work. Coincidentally, your neighbor's car breaks too. He asks you to drive him to work and to do errands. He gives you x amount of money. So, you are using the rental car and making a few bucks. Do you turn over any of that to the rental car company because you are making a profit on their car? All you owe them is what's in the rental car contract.

The only problem I see is Ricky opening his big mouth to brag that they could make money on a sublease. He and Lucy should've said nothing. After all, they were inviting Fred and Ethel up to the hotel in Maine, most likely to be their guests. They'd probably spend a lot of that profit from the sublease on the Mertzes anyway.



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Wow. I don't agree at all. Certainly Ricky had the right to sublet, as he didn't want to pay rent for the two months
he and Lucy were gone. But to CAPITALIZE on property they didn't own was extremely inappropriate. And the fact that
the two couples were longtime friends and Ricky and Lucy announce this without even consulting Fred is pretty
rotten in my book. If Ricky had just stated he could get $300, and offered to split it upfront, and Fred STILL got
testy, I'd agree with you. But it was HIS property.

Curiously, we also have opposite opinions on "Never Do Business with Friends." For Lucy and Ricky to expect
Fred to write them a check for a machine that SPIT OUT clothes the very next day, AND sprayed water all over
the kitchen (this in itself could've caused significant damage), is absurd. A true friend would never ask that. And
even in a true business deal, Fred would've had the right to refused payment.

Mind you, I'm stating this on the ASSUMPTION that the machine's breaking down was
the very next day. Had it been two weeks later (which I doubt), then I'd see your point.
Either way, Fred hadn't paid for it yet.

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I can see your point about capitalizing on another's property. DVDs have those disclaimers that they are for private use only. It would be illegal to buy a movie on DVD and then charge a fee to watch it. Or it would be illegal to copy a published poem and send it in to a magazine as your own and expect payment. When it comes to intellectual property, I agree. It's illegal to sell or in any way make a profit on copyright material.

In the case of apartments, i have heard many examples of how renters in "the big city" are able to get sky high rent when they sublet. People who are vacationing often like to stay in a private home rather than a hotel. And they are often willing to pay. However, I don't know the particulars of lease agreements, like, do renters have to split the profit with the owner of the building?

In the case of ILL, the two couples were longtime friends. In no way was Fred suffering because Ricky was making a profit. And he did admit, he'd still expect rent money if the place was vacant all summer. Why would he begrudge the Ricardos the chance to make a profit? It's not like that's what they set out to do. Mrs. Hammond was the one who told them that she could get them more money than they were paying in rent. It's hard to believe that this was the first time it happened. I can't believe that Fred never had a renter try to sublet before.
If this was a major problem for Fred then he should have put a clause in the lease that said a tenant could only charge the same amount for a sublet as he himself was paying.

And again, the Ricardos were inviting the Mertzes up to Maine to be their guests, presumably they would be paying for the hotel room and food. I maintain that Ricky was being generous and Fred just had his usual dollar signs in his eyes.

As for the washing machine, I forget. WHICH side was I on? LOL Both couples really jumped the gun. Mrs. Trumbull's nephew fixed the machine very cheaply. Before both couples went ballistic, they should have called a repairman!
Yes in a TRUE business deal, like if Fred bought the machine from a store, he wouldn't have to pay if the machine broke right away. Most items come with a warranty. For that reason and others, Ricky did NOT want to sell the machine to the Mertzes. He was selling it with no guarantee and no warranty. It was sold "as is." And Fred did say how handy he was with tools. He could fix any problem.
Ricky was right in not wanting to do business with friends. All sorts of personal feelings get mixed up in a business deal. Also, as Ricky said, "You took possession of the merchandise!" So he expected payment.
What would happen in small claims court? I wonder how a judge would rule if there was no buyer for the machine and it couldn't be repaired.

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I'm no expert on property and finance, so if indeed this was LEGAL in 1954 New York, that is fine. Legally
speaking. But certainly Ricky had to consider their longtime friendship, as well as Fred's obvious cheap side.
I still think it was very rude, clueless (Lucy and Ricky look very shocked at Fred and Ethel's reaction) and
opportunistic.

But you have a point in that Ricky and Lucy offered to treat Fred and Ethel to a visit to Maine (which I'm sure
included airfare, housing and food. But that doesn't negate Lucy and Ricky's greed.

I could run this by my brother, who is well off, and owns a nice apartment building in Santa Barbara. But he
HATES this show, so I don't if he'd even bother with a reply.

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gb- Your brother hates the show THAT much? LOL He won't even comment on an episode!

I still think Fred was being petty here. Also, he was probably mad at himself for not thinking about putting in a clause in the lease that said if the tenant made a profit from subletting, he would have to split it with the landlord!

Yeah that offer to be the Ricardo's guests in Maine... If a friend offered me a summer vacation at a resort (all expenses paid), I'd be inclined to look the other way if they made a small profit on my apartment.

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What they did to Mr. Beecher was reprehensible. Not only were they somewhat selfish to renege on the deal they made with him (even though Ricky's fell through) but they traumatized him all over again.

Regardless of the money ,there is a moral issue with the sublease and Ricky making a profit on Fred's property (investment), like borrowing your best friend's car--and without them knowing why--- to use as a taxi to make $$. It doesn't feel right. What is strange about the writing is why the Ricardos (and Mrs. Hammond) kept having potential-tenants considered for the sublease when they already knew the Mertzes would decline them. There was no point in that.

Both eps had some genuine funny lines from Desi Arnaz: (about Mr, Beecher) "oh, this guy's in greeaat shape". And with the washing machine, him imitating Fred: "if anything go wrong, I am handy with tools, I can fix it".

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About Mrs. Hammond...she says that she's been renting apartments for her clients in the Mertz building for years. She's good at her job and tries to get the highest rent possible. Obviously, it helps her personal finances too.

As she says when she comes up with a solution to the problem, "I was just trying to protect my commission."
I'm thinking that her commission is about 10%. So ten percent of $300 is better than ten percent pf $100! I can't believe this was the FIRST time she got rent above what the normal rent was. So did the other tenants in Fred's building never mention to him that they were getting a lot to sublet their apartments? Probably, since they weren't close friends like the Ricardos were.

Comparing subletting your apartment to borrowing a friend's car to use as a taxi is not a valid comparison. First, The Ricardos didn't borrow the apartment to make a profit. They were renting it and the Mertzes knew that they were subletting so they wouldn't have to pay rent on an empty place. And once again, Ricky was living up to his part of the lease. He OWED Fred the rent money. And he wasn't subletting to some lowlife who'd tear out the plumbing. In no way was Fred suffering by having someone else living for a few months in the Ricardo apartment.
If you borrow a friend's car and become an Uber driver with it, well that's different. You'd owe your friend money for car maintenance, an oil change,etc.

But true, it made no sense for Mrs. Hammond to keep sending over potential clients for approval. The Mertzes were going to play out that spiteful string to the end. They didn't seem to mind that the Ricardos would be forking over two months rent while they were away. I just can't help it. i think the Mertzes are being small minded and petty in this instance.

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It's not solely about the money despite Ricky living up to his part of the lease, but the principle behind it. Business (money) can be partly an emotional thing. In other words, Fred is not in business to make his tenants money by allowing them to rent their furnished sublet at twice the rent. I realize being best friends is probably why you find the Metzes petty about it, but as mentioned previously, it would had been different if they had told the Mertzes in advance, if only out of courtesy. The presumption on Ricky's part is also why it likely bothered them. Even though the Mertzes knew Ricky would sublet it, they didn't know until later about the profit. I have lived in apts where the management does not allow subletting; you'd have to either lie or just not mention it to management and hope they don't find out.

We don't know if this situation ever came up with Fred's other tenants subletting--but a furnished apt is what makes the difference vs. a regular sublet. It's a major plus when you can find a furnished sublet , especially when you dont' have a place to live, and cannot afford a motel. I have lived in furnished sublets a couple of times, and was both lucky and very grateful.

The commission usually (as least today) is 1/2 months rent /one month's rent, depending on the realtor/management co. to locate an apt

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