Captain St. Jacques


Is it just me or did there seem to be some sort of tension between the characters of Lt. Colonel Yorke and Captain St. Jacques?

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Definite tension. Was it a difference of opinion? Was it a game of chess gone horribly wrong? What?!? One of the things I like about Ford is that he let's us come upon a fully formed society and make of it what we will.




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Good point. It's one of the reasons Ford's films have always worked with me . . . his use of a whole cloth with which to make a story. Brushstrokes like the occasional untold background story, making the characters far more three dimensional.

Look at "The Searchers" (to use another example). When Wayne's character of Ethan Edwards first shows up everyone's as jumpy as cats. Why? Was he a wanted criminal? Had there been a scandal? What? The audience never finds out but, as with the business between Yorke and St. Jacques, it makes Edwards more of a real character who happened to step into our perception.

Going back to "Rio Grande", I notice how, in the scene where Wayne shows up in his dress whites to Maureen O'Hara, he seems to bristle (again) at the sight of St. Jacques. Since his character claimed to be still in love with his wife there certainly can't have been an incident where St. Jacques and Yorke had competed for the attention of the same woman. Or was there something in St. Jacques character which made Yorke uncomfortable at seeing the other officer around a "decent" woman? Again a brushstroke which added to the overall story.

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The only nuance I could perceive is that perhaps the large, bluff, gruff Yankee was jealous of the lithe, dapper, debonair French Southerner, and definitely didn't want him around "his woman"... ?

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I caught that too. St. Jacques did seem rather attracted to Mrs. Yorke (in retrospect not too unnatural a situation).

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As in most of Ford's westerns, this one was populated by supporting characters that had their own unknown stories. Perhaps Captain St. Jacques fought on the side of the Confederacy? But then again, so did Tyree and probably more than a few of the others. Captain St. Jacques was a smooth character as compared to the rather stoic Yorke. And the eye patched, French-speaking, Captain St. Jacques was just a damned interesting character. Anyone know what it was he said when they came upon the slaughtered wife of the trooper? He kind of whispers and my french is la petite rusty...

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I've also wondered what St. Jacques whispered. I suspect that, whatever it was, it wasn't meant for polite society.


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It couldn't be too bad, or they wouldn't have been allowed to put it in the movie. Any Francophiles out there who could translate?
But as I originally said, he's another of those great characters that John Ford came up with.

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Peter Ortiz was "an interesting character". I'm in my 50's and read about his experiences in the OSS when I was 9.Could be that he was a real military hero, and although I like John Wayne, maybe he was uncomfrotable around him.

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I didn't get it all but the last phrase could have been "Les sauvages bestiales" ??? i.e. 'beastly savages'

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I think that what he said was "St Marie, Sauvages, Barbares." Which means "st mary, savages, barbarians". I am almost sure it was that, but as he said it with a very strong accent, it was even hard for me (and I'm french) to understand it.
I was wondering because of his name: captain St Jacques and the fact he speaks french, do you think this character is french?

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He says "Sacre Bleu, sauvages, barbares."

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Sorry he says Oh Sainte Mère... Les sauvages Les barbares...
Oh Holy Mother The Savages The barbarians .

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No one who fought for the Confederacy could be commissioned an officer in the US Army. Not until the Spanish-American war did a former Confederate receive a commission. That was Joseph "Fighting Joe" Wheeler, former Confederate general. So St. Jacques could not have been a former Confederate. Perhaps he was a former officer in the French Foreign Legion who left when Emperor Maximilian was executed, and crossed the border into the USA.

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Here is an article about Peter Ortiz. This guy was definitely the real deal.

http://www.militarymuseum.org/Ortiz.html

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Wow! I'm surprised Ford didn't make a movie about him. Thanks for sending this along.

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WOW!! Very impressive. Thank you for your service, Colonel Ortiz.

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York didn't like St. Jacques because the latter, being French, tended to neglect his personal hygiene, and at the slightest sign of an enemy attack, wanted to run up the white flag of surrender.

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Why? No other person did....



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There are two moments of apparent tension between Yorke and St. Jacques. The first is after the Apache raid on Fort Starke, where Yorke tells St. Jacques he will talk to him later in a manner that suggests he is displeased. My only guess at why this is is because St. Jacques might have been given responsibility for fort security, and Yorke is understandably upset at the breach and the escape of the prisoners, though unwilling to call him out on it at the moment as he wants to learn more about what happened before assigning blame. That's just a guess, as St. Jacques doesn't seem to be identified as the commander of the guard from what I saw.

The other moment of tension is when St. Jacques is having coffee with Mrs. Yorke when the colonel shows up in a white-jacketed uniform. St. Jacques calls him "elegant," whereupon Yorke firmly suggests St. Jacques occupy himself with his duties immediately.

It doesn't seem like St. Jacques has any past relationship with Mrs. Yorke, or that Col. Yorke is jealous of him. It just may be that St. Jacques is one of those subordinates who gets on a commander's nerves a bit even as he performs good service.

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First off I'd like to extend some appreciation to all the people who've been not only contributing to this topic, but making some rather good responses.

A nice summation of the situation, Stokes. And an interesting point raised in your final paragraph. Among all his other talents Ford (and James Warner Bellah) recognized that relations between officers and subordinates were not always smooth.


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I think the scene with Colonel York showing up in white coat with flowers is simple to explain. He is out of his element suddenly. Instead of the self confident commanding officer he is a nervous suitor to his estranged wife. That makes him uneasy and he does not want his two officers to see him in this predicament so he hints broadly that they should leave.

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I was thinking about your comments while re-watching The Alamo. Wayne's Crockett had no qualms about revealing personal feelings towards Linda Cristal (as Flaca), but he was reticent in demonstrating same while in the presence of his men.

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I have read that John Wayne was a little intimidated by Peter Julien Ortiz, because he was a real life military hero while Wayne never served and only played heroes in the movies.

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Hundreds of actors have played heroes in movies and television shows, yet never were in the military or any war. It's not a big deal, but far too much has been made of it in the case of John Wayne. He was too good of an actor to let any private feelings he may have had (but probably didn't) leak through so obviously into his performance. Not only that, but Ford wouldn't have allowed him to. Whatever awkwardness there is between Yorke and St. Jacques was intended by the writers, by Ford, and by Wayne and Ortiz.

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