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If there is one thing I think we can all agree on.....


It would definitely have sucked to be a woman in feudal Japan. I realize sexism was and still is common in many parts of the world, but it seems to have been particularly extreme in that time period in Japan. I felt the most bad for the wife in this, because no matter which story you think is the "true" one, she gets a bad deal in all of them.

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I agree but I'm not sure that all who pass here agree with you.

Keep silent unless what you are going to say is more important than silence.

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agree

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Can't argue with this.
In some cultures if a woman gets raped it is somehow believed by others to be her fault.



It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.

Voltaire

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agree, and yet Kurasawa managed to tell the story without demonizing or belittling the woman. except of course for that horrible laughter. I suspect that laughter has more to do with the woodcutter's wife than the events in the woods.

I understand. Thank you for telling me. -The masked bandit

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Yes, I think you're right. Kurosawa was a genius.

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Kurosawa managed to tell the story without demonizing or belittling the woman. except of course for that horrible laughter.

Note that in *every* description of the people involved except the woodcutter's testimony (including the woodcutter's descriptions of how they behaved during the trial) it's the bandit that has that laugh and not the wife.

The fact that the woodcutter, from his his vantage point in hiding (by far the worst view of any of the witnesses, just in terms of physically being able to see and hear what was really happening), mistakenly attributed it to the wife is probably the most obvious cue to the audience that his version isn't any more true / accurate than any of the others (despite his status as a "neutral observer").

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Yep. I certainly didn't think the Woodcutter's story was any more reliable than the others. It was just yet another account of the crime which seemed equally unreliable to the rest. Towards the end of the film he gets caught lying about taking the dagger as well (one of the reasons he didn't tell his story at the trial), further demonstrating the woodcutter isn't a completely honest person. He did redeem himself at the very end with the baby however, and in doing so also redeemed the priest's faith in humanity.

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Why feudal Japan only. It basically sucket to be a woman from the same reasons anywhere else since the dawn of time to cca 1969. In some parts of the World, even in some rural parts of ''civilised'' World it's the same story today.

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Yes you're right about all of that. I was just limiting my discussion to feudal Japan because that is what the movie was about. ;)

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Fair enough.

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In some parts of the World, even in some rural parts of ''civilised'' World it's the same story today.
Totally agree. In fact I think we could actually change "some" to "plenty of".🐭

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I echo the previous posts. In "some" parts of the world, it is no less extreme than it was back then.


Hey there, Johnny Boy, I hope you fry!

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Women had it rough because men were expected to die for them. A simple compromise for society is that women are submissive to the men who will struggle and toil away for them and maybe even fight and die for them. You can't complain about sexism and being unfair when both sides have to sacrifice and suffer for civilization.

Though I disagree with the notion of rape that many cultures carry/carried. The idea it is always the women's fault.

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