Jaibo
I would like other opinions..... Specifically an analysis of the character Jaibo, any thoughts?
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In my opinion Jaibo is the personification of evil. He has no redeeming qualities except in the one scene where he tells of the dream about his mother. He is responsible for leading Pedro down a path of crime when he wants to become a good son. Then he murders him. There is no sign that he feels anything after killing someone except fear of being caught.
i don't even know if he's saying the truth when he tells about his mother. he's just an all around jerk.
sharei just saw the movie and i think that is ecxelent
yes that jaibo is evil... is a boy that u can hate, he is the tallest of the other kids so he controlls them all.....he is mean,, is a very rude person with out no feelings at all..probably cause he never meet his parents/....
he is a sick kid with problems that maybe didnt knew well the difference between the good or the bad..
jaibo is neither the pure symbol nor the body of evil, he can not be. i mean, bunuel would not let him to be. los olvidados is the kind of movie in which no character is good or evil. i think jaibo represents the simple, primitive, pragmatist human being. and a major fragment of the society actually is formed of people like jaibo. he is one of us, he just did not have money and he wanted to live. jaibo is the point where bunuel's criticism towards society gets hardest.
-sorry for poor english.
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Hay que recordar tambien (hablando de las instituciones), que el periodo que Jaibo pasa en la correccional no lo ayuda en nada, recuerden cuando les dice a todos que "He aprendido muchas cosas ahi adentro, y si hacen lo que yo les digo... a ninguno le faltara sus centavos".
Tambien el estar en contacto con la ley le sirve solo para conocer sus reglas y asi poder quebrantarlas: "Ningun gendarme te puede hacer nada si no te cogen con el cuerpo del delito en las manos".
Asi que, paradojicamente, el estar adentro de la carcel lo pervierte aun mas, por lo que toda posibilidad de redencion le es negada, tal vez en el pasado le paso lo mismo que a Pedro, que estuvo a punto de reformarse pero no pudo hacerlo a causa de las malas compañias (en este caso el propio Jaibo).
Es discutible el hecho de si el fue sincero al hablar acerca de su madre, a la que nunca conocio, pero yo creo que aqui si dice la verdad, pues uno de los temas subyacentes en la pelicula es la ausencia de la madre... de hecho la figura de la madre sale muy malparada en esta pelicula.
De ahi el hecho de que la relacion que el sostiene con la madre de Pedro sea aun mas escandalosa, pues el tono edipico de esas secuencias es muy marcado, es como si Jaibo inconscientemente se estuviera encamando con su propia madre, y hay que recordar que si hay algo muy sagrado aqui en Mexico, es la madre.
Asi que otro de los crimenes (morales) que se le podrian achacar a Jaibo es el de cometer un incesto indirecto, pues es indudable que el asocia de una manera inconsciente a la madre de Pedro con su propia madre ausente.
Eso digo yo... ¿Algunas otras opiniones?
Jaibo caused almost every single negative incident explored in this film. I think the message of this film is that Jaibo is responsible for everything bad that happens in Mexico City. Once he was dead and after the film has ended I imagine everyone had a much better time.
sharePossibly he's the only character who can be described as "totally evil". But if you look at him, he's really misled. If he wouldn't been thrown away by his parents and got into the streets as a child he wouldn't probably be such evil and cruel as he is.
That's how Bunuel want us to look at these people. None of them are good or evil. The same thing goes for the blind man. First, I really felt sympathy for him when he tried to get a few pesos with singing and playing the guitar and Jaibo's boys tried to rob him. But later when he tries to rape that young girl and shouts with 'Small Eyes' trying to hit him, he is really just an evil old man.
BTW this is my favourite Bunuel film. "Viridana" is a close second.
"A voice from behind me reminds me. Spread out your wings you are an angel."
It's true that we don't know how Jaibo became the way he did. When he lusts after Pedro's mother and says that he envies Pedro for having a mother, I saw this as an expression of the deep seated envy that seeks to destroy those it is envious of. Such envy only occurs amidst deprivation, whether economic or emotional. I think it fair to assume that Jaibo suffered both kinds of deprivation. His envy is foreshadowed earlier in Pedro's dream where Jaibo's hand reaches from beneath Pedro's bed to steal the slab of meat Pedro's mother is giving to Pedro.
This type of envy can make a person evil because it consumes them.
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To me, one of the few things I enjoyed about the film was how relentless Jaibo was the whole movie. That's a villain.
shareHe's a product of poverty. A young man who doesn't even know his name, who never met his father and whose mother died when he was young. Eventough intented to be a movie antagonist, he really is a tragic character too.
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