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Gloria Grahame - What a doll!



My God, I love it when I find a movie that is so fantastic, and no one has ever heard or is not famous or a classic. This movie was so great, a true dark classic, one of the best movies I have ever seem Bogie do.

I saw this as a double feature with "Casablanca" tonight at the Stanford Theater in Palo Alto, CA ... for $7. What a deal .. what a steal! What a great medium, movies used to be.

I am reeling from this, I had no idea where it was going or what was going to happen until the very end, then I could kind of guess, but this movie shows something I think was very common back in 1950.

Back to the point, I am totally crazy about Gloria Grahame ... she was so wonderful and feminine, and yet strong, and yet captured by Bogie's abusive character.

I wonder how this movie was received when it debuted, I have a feeling it probably hit a bit too close for comfort.

10/10 and Gloria Grahame was perfect! I wonder what else she has ever been in I have never heard of her before.

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Congratulations on stumbling upon this brilliant film. I felt the same way when I discovered it in April, and sense then I have fallen harder and harder for this dark, underrated and poignant gem...In fact, I think it's bordering on obsession. If you have any questions about the making of the movie or anything, you can email me at [email protected].

When the film was released, many critics thought that it was among Bogart's best performances. Even TIME magazine, which gave it a negative review when it first came out (it can be viewed here: http://www.time.com/time/2005/100movies/0,23220,in_a_lonely_place,00.html), named it one of the 100 best films ever made a few decades later. However, it was a financial disappointment. Something tells me that people weren't ready to see their beloved, world-weary but always heroic Bogart persona be shredded into bits to reveal that painful vulnerability and unnerving violence--this was just before Brando, Dean and Clift became sensations for Method acting, when stars were still beloved for selling their on-screen personas rather than exploring a variety of roles.

Ironically, even though this movie is praised for its acid look at Hollywood and is often overshadowed by All About Eve and Sunset Blvd., the three movies were actually released the same year, but In a Lonely Place actually debuted in May, before the other two. I think it's the best of the three, because it's so much more than an anti-Hollywood movie or a film noir--it's an adult love story about how insecurities and our reluctance to fully trust one another that can destroy even the most beautiful, hopeful and deepest of relationships.

And I think that this is Gloria Grahame's best performance. She made a career of being typecast as the lovable floozy, but this is a rare role that frees her of the convention and shows her for what she's worth. She and Bogart make a wonderful duo--Laurel is a role obviously meant for Lauren Bacall (Edmund North was tailoring the role of Dix for Bogart when he was adapting it, so it makes sense), but her contract wouldn't allow it, so Gloria Grahame, who was married to director Nicholas Ray at the time, was brought in. There is no doubt that Bacall would've made a memorable Laurel, but Grahame gives the role a worldly angle that Bacall could never have alluded to, and she more than equals Bacall with her chemistry with Bogart. In fact, she delivers one of my all-time favorite lines in movies ("I said I liked it--I didn't say I wanted to kiss it."), and she belongs on the list of great Bogart love interests, along with Bacall, Katharine Hepburn and Ingrid Bergman.

Grahame and Nicholas Ray were famously breaking up during the filming. This film is possibly the career best film for both, and remains a testament to their professionalism under pressure.

Did he train you? Did he rehearse you? Did he tell you *exactly* what to do, what to say?!

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Thanks for all the information. I was thinking about Lauren Bacall when
I was watching this, and for a moment had to blink a few times because
I thought Gloria Grahame was Bacall.

I knew I had seen that face before, and I was searching for who it was
throughout the whole movie ... to get home, consult IMDB and find out
it was the least expected place I would ever had thought, and that was
the mother character in the movie "Chilly Scenes Of Winter". She was
so great in that role, and the depth of the character against the rest
of the movie was sheer genius.

This movie is so dark I am amazed that it was made or seen at all.
I think of "All About Eve" which is brilliant as well, "Sunset Blvd"
never really resonated with me for some reason ... maybe I'll have to
see it again.

"In A Lonely Place" ... actually I'm surprised that it is even
recognized as the great work that it is today because it is so brutal
to look at - but there was a "psychological" innocent era of movies
when psychoanalysis and psychology first was considered by the American
audience. Films like "Marnie" or "Spellbound" that were simply and to
the point, where now the psychological aspect of most movies is simple
a plot gimmick.

I read about Gloria Grahame and such a funny thing about her marrying
Nicholas Ray, divorcing and then marrying his son! I never knew that
could happen ... so bizzarre!

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I just read the Time magazine article, and wow, it was terrible, and full of spoilers to boot. Time Magazine really hated this movie ... which I can understand at the time, because focusing on male temper tantrums and abuse was not accepted at the time.

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It would have been so much more satisfying had Bacall played the part.

Gloria Grahame always struck me as an actor who tried too hard to be demure or substantial.

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I am glad they did not cast Bacall in this. Grahame was perfect.

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I am glad they did not cast Bacall in this. Grahame was perfect.
I agree. I came away from the film IN LOVE with her! She was great.

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Hi - just saw this movie for the first time tonight ,so of course I am on
IMDB reading about it .I don't really know anything about Ms. Grahame and
was looking at her filmography - aha ! 4 years before this she was in Capra's
"Its a Wonderful Life" as Violet - the hot blonde Jimmy Stewart did not
hook up with......

George Bailey "say Violet , thats some dress you have on there"

Violet "this old thing ? I only put this on when I don't care how I look "

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You should read about her life and see her in the movie "Chilly Scenes Of Winter".
She married her director, divorced and married his son. She must have been
quite an interesting person.

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She was a good actress-I loved her performance in this film. I've heard she had so much plastic surgery done to her upper lip she ended up practically deformed at the end, a la Michael Jackson's nose. I'd watch her in anything, and next to Bacall, she's my favorite Bogart leading lady.

I was very pleased to just discover this film on TCM recently.

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I agree. I've always counted Grahame among the best actresses in Hollywood history. As an added bonus, she was so very easy on the eyes.




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I totally agree she is really hot in this film

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Ah - Yes indeed, I saw this again on TCM. Gloria Grahame is one of those most naturally beautiful women. (Meow).
I love old classics such as this movie - a taut 94 minutes: Bogart at his best and Frank Lovejoy, Jean Marie (Jeff) Donnell, and the rest of supporting cast was superb.

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She was wonderful, particularly so in this film, and they had great chemistry.

Thanks so much, RubyTuesday, for your thoughtful and incisive comments and the link, as well.

I have read her bio - "Suicide Blonde" - and highly recommend it.

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Gloria Gtrahame was never better and never prettier than she was here. That short but very feminine hairdo was GREAT on her and I love the dark lipstick she wears during the whole film.

I agree, she and Bogie definitely had some chemistry going on, that's for sure!


** SPOLIERS BELOW **

This movie is great. I remember seeing it about 15 years ago, but I had missed part of the beginning and was quite confused. Just saw it again tonight, in full, and loved every minute of it. I had forgotten the ending, which surprised me, because I wasn't expecting him to accept defeat and just walk away like that! (Although if you look under the IMDB trivia section, the original ending was rather different. I was expecting them to patch things up - a third possible ending.)

LOVED IT!!!!

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Yeah, she was a swell lookin dame alright.

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Here's a great page featuring many photos of Gloria thru the years including a photo taken in 1979, two years before her death:

http://noirwhale.com/2012/12/03/femme-fatales-gloria-grahame/

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First, thanks for the GREAT link. Awesome find.

Yes, Grahame is one of my all time favorite "noir" actresses.

I still can't define why I like her so much. Her face, her body, her voice, the way she delivered lines; all of those qualities attract me.

She and Marie Windsor were just the ultimate feminine leads in movies of that time.

Grahame was no beauty, even by the standard of the day, but I loved her face. She could simultaneously "broadcast" tough and vulnerable, longing and distance, innocence and sophistication. It is almost as if she played all her characters as women who were tough because they had to be, but most desired being soft, giving, and desirable.

Watta ya lookn here for?

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Wonderful page of pics.


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She's always kinda mousy and vaguely annoying and not particularly good looking, either. Don't quite understand the appeal (well, I guess she 'was' a pretty good actress, all in all).



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