The Wolf Whistles


I just viewed D.O.A. again for probably the zillionth time. It is a favorite. I decided to see what the rest of you thought of it and went to the "comments" I noticed several people objected to the "Wolf Whistles" at the hotel convention! Very corny, I agree but that dumb toy, I guess you'd call it ,was part and parcel of any convention at the time. It was just a dumb thing that men out on the town at a convention did!

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The timing of all the wolf whistles coincides perfectly with Bigelow noticing attractive women in the hotel. Now how could that be if they were real wolf whistles actually being used by OTHER guys in the hotel? Bigelow was obviously not using one.

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I thought they were just funny...

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Probably the intention was to anticipate him on a wild night out, and not his murder.

By the way, aren't Paula and Sue really really beautiful?


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The Wolf Whistles are just terrible. TERRIBLE. But I don't know what is worse, the whistles or the music. It is a shame, since the movie is otherwise fantastic.


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I was a bit annoyed with those whistles myself but I did notice something about them: you only hear them in common areas of the hotel, like the front desk and the hallway. You don't hear it when he's in his room, even though attractive women go by his door and one even appears in the doorway. I think they're supposed to represent the society or atmosphere he was in at the time, and his room is supposed to represent act I of the Greek tragedy that will end his own life.

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im a girl, i liked the wolf whistles, it was funny. all the women in the movie were exceptionally ugly though. especially compared to the lookers of the day like rita hayworth.

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Girl or guy, it really doesn't matter, the film was great but those whistling sounds were TERRIBLE! and took a little away from the flow and feel of the movie. I came to this message board just to comment on the whistles and I'm not surprised it's already been mentioned. I half-expected to see a cartoon wolf in a zoot suit.

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I didn´t think of the girls in the movie as ugly, I think they were beautiful. They just follow a different standard than today's.

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Those wolf-whistles really confused me ... then really embarrassed me ... and in the end I just wanted it to STOP!! Same for the 'jive-talk' in the jazz bar ...

Otherwise, great movie !

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Silly and very incongruous in this film and even in the 'lighthearted' scenes in which they were. I don't know what could have possessed the director to include them! Other films of this period - even this genre - have included this strange device - but at more appropriate, obvious, times. Like others' observations, the inappropriateness is in the timing: they appear only when a women is 'noticed' by Bigelot - yet he doesn't make them; it's seems implausible that other characters are making them; so they seem, awkwardly, imposed on the script from without. Absurd!

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dude, I thought the background music was brilliant,
the initial few bars( I hope, thats what theyre called)
really set the tone for the character
pls do give it another try( the starting background tune)
Its always a shame when somebodys brilliance goes unoticed

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funny thing is i didnt even realise those where meant to be wolf whistles when i first saw this a few days ago. If that indeed is what those sounds where then i can't help but laugh. They sound just really stupid but maybe this was standard 'effect' for the time. Didnt take any gloss off the movie though, found it very entertaining.

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I don't mind the wolf whistles in the sense that it would contemporary with the film. They just get on my pip though. It’s almost like they couldn’t just rely on the fact that people could actually SEE him looking at the women.

It would like have the ‘Cuckoo’ noise played in the “The Shining” every time Jack Torrance did something a little odd.

It’s a total odds with the noir nature of the rest of the film. Maybe that’s the point, trying to inject a little ‘lightness’ to the general blackness of the plot. I mean, it’s about a man whose dying trying to track his own murderer. How dark could it get for 1950!

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I think it might have been a studio thing, maybe after watching it they thought it was too dark and pesimistic and needed to tone it down a bit, so they added the stupid wolf whistles so people would laugh in the theater. I really don't think it was Dimitri Tiomkin's (composer) or Rudolph Matè's (director) idea.

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I think they were deliberately keeping the first part in a lighter tone, almost like a silly romantic comedy, to lull the audience into a happy mood. Then, as the movie progressed, the mood became darker and darker and more jerky and nervous, just like Bigelow would have perceived it himself. The first instance of anxiety came in the multiple closeups of the band playing and sweating hard. This was about the time he was poisoned.

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That's exactly what it was Mike. To get the audience to lower it's guard for the nightmare to follow.


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And those whistles were VERY common back then. Red plastic with yellow trim and metal slider with a hoop on the end.
There were only so many 'noises' one could make with them - the 'wolf whistle' being one. No internet, stereos, TV, video games, i pads etc. Not much to break up the monotony so anything to break it up was welcomed.The average grown man wouldn't have been caught dead with one but, like today, there were plenty of guys with a childish sense of humor back in the day also. I hadn't been born yet when this movie was made but I would guess these whistles had been all the rage in 1950 and this is why they were included. Don't forget, movies back then were not made with the thought that they would be viewed/bought, over and over again on VHS (don't ask) DVD, Blu Ray etc. Use once, throw away.TV was in its infancy
and there again, 'live' with very little eye to the future.
Man, now I feel old !!

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It’s a total odds with the noir nature of the rest of the film. Maybe that’s the point, trying to inject a little ‘lightness’ to the general blackness of the plot. I mean, it’s about a man whose dying trying to track his own murderer. How dark could it get for 1950!
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You should win an intelligence award for being the only poster(besides Mike Czech)to get it right. It was done purposely to be cheezy and corny, to give counterweight the serious of what we already knew, that the lead character was poisoned and was now dying...

For that reason it did not bother me in the least. It was basically the only thing in the entire film that was light hearted or light and playful in tone.

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Um no, we don't know that he's poisoned and dying at that point. All we know is that he walked into a police station to report a murder... his own. We don't really know what that means yet.

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I think these stupid whistles were dubbed on at some later point when the film fell into public domain. If you notice, they are much clearer than the rest of the sound in the movie.

In fact, there is a lot of sound that has been overdubbed in this movie. Listen to the phones every time they ring in the film. Each phone has two separte and distinct rings if you listen carefully enough.

But the most obvious instance of overdubbed sound was at the jazz club. Right after the Fisherman performs his number, you can hear two songs being played at the same time. One is obviously the song that the female character is referring to when she comments on "that crazy saxaphone" or whatever she says, but there is another song played on top of that which is a vocal.

I always assumed that this overdubbed sound was endemic to the copy I picked up at the 99 Cents Only Store, but I guess not. I always assumed that this one done so that the manufacturer could legitimately maintain that the sound was enhanced when it really wasn't. In any case, it's frickin' irritating.

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I always assumed those wolf whistles were an overdubbed sound effect too. And yes, they are embarrassingly silly, even though they're pretty hilarious because of that. It's the one scene that most dates the film. Otherwise it's a brilliant little movie in its own right.

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I thought the whistles were really silly and dumb too, out of place and ruined the mood of the hotel scene. As one person already said, we could easily SEE that he was looking at all the women and we knew what he was thinking without some silly sound to help us "get it"...but isn't a "wolf whistle" done by a man? The whistles in this film sounded like my children's slide whistle toy intrument. If the film had real wolf whistles done by real people's mouths, it still probably would have been a bit silly but at least it would have been real and not some dumb sound track annoyance.

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It's always possible but I'm guessing mic quality and noise cancelling back in those days wasn't good. Mixing also seems to be quite hit and miss both visually and audibly - notice a lot of the car engines in old movies are loud. I reckon the people who added it in didn't level it properly or consciously decided it should be in there (or maybe it was just the style at the time).

I found them very off-putting for a start but that's because all I can see now is political incorrectness. In those days it probably wasn't the height of manners but not as offensive as today. It really highlighted to me that he was very interested in the girls around the place and was looking for some action (not that his head turning stares didn't do that by themselves). One of the most important points of the movie is where he tells Paula he loves her and he just didn't realise it until now. That's the complete opposite of the mental wolf-whistles he's giving the girls when he first gets away from Paula's smothering affection.

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I found the whistles to be distracting. I was glad when they stopped.

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The wolf whistles didn't bother me at all. I cannot stand political correctness. What is wrong with a wolf whistle for heaven's sake?

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Those idiotic whistles have NOTHING to do with political correctness and the issues of race, gender, sexual preferences, ecology, etc. It only has all to do with the whistles' horrific aging of this otherwise fantastic film noir. It's the only time I yelled "WILL YOU SHUT UP!" to a movie.

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I agree. They sound like its from a totally different sound mix...and I doubt they were in the original film. Any fans around who saw the film way back then with a really good memory to corroborate this?

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Ha, ha! I was three years old at the time this film came out so I don't remember much about 1950. What I do remember is that wolf whistles were around for many years afterwards. I did it only once at about 6 years of age, and my mother washed my mouth with soap. I guess the practice died out - even with the "Construction Workers On Lunch Break" set...because it has been a long time since I heard one being delivered. In the movie, it was just a reminder of a time long past when men were less sensitive to women's feelings. I find it funny that so many are SO offended by something that is nothing more than a cliche' of it's day...and a corny one at that. After all, isn't such behavior most demeaning to the one who practices it? Or as Alice Faye says to her suiter in The Gang's All Here, "Do you really get results with that line?"

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I find it funny that so many are SO offended


I think the huge majority of sentiment in this thread has nothing to do with being offended. (I think one person expressed "embarrassment"). The main point about the wolf whistles is that, in an otherwise quintessential film noir work, they just stick out like a sore thumb. I agree, they just seem way out of place.


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