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Myrna Loy wasted in this role, imo


I just saw the original version of Cheaper By the Dozen and I have to admit I wasn't overly impressed. Some good bits but not a film I see myself wanting to own or see again.

What depressed me the most was that they had Myrna Loy - Myrna Loy - and they did almost nothing with her. Now, Myrna Loy is the rare actress who combines beauty, brains, cuteness and sexiness in equal, overflowing measures, so it was sad to see her play a role that just about any studio actress at the time could have handled. The only time you really saw her "spark" was in her eyes when the quack from Planned Parenthood showed up to ask her about representing their cause (being unaware that she was the mother of twelve children). Otherwise, I think she was completely underutilized.

Ah, well, we will always have the Thin Man series to go back to!



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perhaps loy was cast in this film cuz she was a rather successful actress and a big draw for theatre goers at the time.

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I completely agree. I was thinking the exact same thing as I was watching the movie. I was disappointed that her part wasn't the best. She could have done so much more and it's a shame. She was so talented that her part should have been better.

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It also always surprised me that she was billed third in the credits, after Jeanne Crain, who was beginning to move ahead as a popular actress (and just coming off two great roles in 1949, A Letter to Three Wives and her Oscar-nominated perf in Pinky). This wasn't much of a role for an actress of Myrna's talents -- just the dutiful, sensible housewife. Still, she gave it her all, true professional that she was.

What's also dismaying is how, not quite 45, Myrna was already being relegated to middle-aged, matronly parts. Just three years earlier she had played a still-sexy and desirable sophisticated woman in The Bachelor and the Bobby-Soxer, and then a slightly daffy but loyal and attractive wife and mother of a very different sort in Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House, both opposite Cary Grant -- in real life, just one year her senior. Now she's playing the wife of a man actually 14 years older, and looking drab into the bargain. Amazing to realize how back then Hollywood shunted women of a certain age into dowdy, spinsterish roles so soon, when today, to cite one example, most of the women on TV's Desperate Housewives are in their 40s and all knock-outs. Of course, actresses continue to find good roles harder to come by than do men, and as ever men can remain romantic leads well into their 60s...things few women have really yet achieved.

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I was surprised as well! And kind of irritated that Myrna was pigeon-holed as the "wife" in Hollywood when she was lovely, independent and intelligent. Even though she admitted she wasn't the type to want to be a lead actress (a la Garbo or Crawford--aka their name could carry a movie alone), I wish she'd been given a few more meaty, non-wife roles.

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Of course, a woman can be lovely, independent and intelligent and still be a "wife"! (In both real life and "reel" life.) But you're right, she did get shunted into "wife" roles, although her wives were seldom just innocuous types -- even as Nora Charles, and in her roles opposite Grant, she was certainly a feisty, independent, intelligent female, the equal of her leading men. Actually, being typecast as the "perfect wife" might have been a welcome change for Miss Loy, who in her early career was typecast as "Oriental villainesses" and the like, mysterious, evil and usually under-clothed temptresses from exotic places.

One drawback to Cheaper is that although we're told she's a psychologist and engineer in her own right, nothing is ever made of it. We see her helping her husband maybe once in the film, but the rest of her time is spent simply being a mother -- which, admittedly, was something she couldn't entirely escape, with 12 kids. Her decision at the end to carry on her husband's work therefore comes a little out of nowhere, because she hasn't been seen as being that involved in it at all, as the real Lillian Gilbreth apparently was. The closing narration indicates she achieved her professional goals later in life, but again this is almost an afterthought. Interestingly, in the sequel, Belles on Their Toes, based on a follow-up book by the same two Gilbreth offspring, Myrna is shown fighting battles for equality and professional recognition against a male-dominated establishment, and prevailing. Though not as good a film overall as the original (someone at Fox had the bright idea of inserting idiotic and unrealistic musical numbers every so often), in its basic plot Belles is something of an early clarion call for feminism, and Myrna's character is much more fleshed out and dominant than in the first film.

One final surprising thing: in a career that spanned almost six decades, and with several excellent performances in such varied films as The Thin Man, The Best Years of Our Lives and From the Terrace, among others, Myrna Loy was not once, ever, nominated for an Academy Award. Luckily, the Academy finally, and in the nick of time (or nora of time), got around to presenting her with an honorary lifetime Oscar just a couple of years before her death. An astonishing oversight, all those years.

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This movie was based on a true story. The real woman was well educated. She had a PhD. Something that was very rare for a woman during the time period that she lived. Also, her PhD was in engineering. I read that she was one of the first females to receive a PhD in engineering.

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Yes, of course, this film and its sequel were both based on books written by two of the dozen Gilbreth offspring (one of whom died just a couple of years ago). The stories are true, and the movies basically so, though of course Hollywoodized. (I gather the real Mr. Gilbreth was rather heavy-set, not the very lithe man Clifton Webb was.) Mrs. Gilbreth died if I recall on New Year's Day, January 1, 1972, in her early 90s and long retired to Scottsdale, AZ.

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johandav says > What depressed me the most was that they had Myrna Loy - Myrna Loy - and they did almost nothing with her. Now, Myrna Loy is the rare actress who combines beauty, brains, cuteness and sexiness in equal, overflowing measures, so it was sad to see her play a role that just about any studio actress at the time could have handled.
I didn't have a problem with Myrna Loy playing this role. I love the movie and am glad she's in it. You seem to forget she knew what the role was when she took it. By this time I believe the studio era was over and actors were picking their own projects.

The movie was called Cheaper by the dozen so it may be misleading but the movie is really about the father; not the mother or the kids. If she didn't have an issue with it why should I? In fact, I've always admired the way Ms. Loy and a lot of very big name actors continued to act, sometimes taking very small roles, after their most popular period had passed.

Acting and making movies is what they did. I can understand why they'd want to continue doing it for as long as possible. Sometimes it's the ego that keeps some actors from continuing to work. They have to have top billing, the biggest role, other attractive people can't be in the movie, they have to have the biggest trailer, they have to get paid more than their co-star, or this, or that.

It seems the ones that think like that are never the best at their craft. They don't care about working, just collecting movie and being famous. Thank goodness Ms. Loy wasn't one of those because I got to see her in movies well into her later years.

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