Silly killer?.


I think the killer should have seen himself as better employed,not getting rid of the boy (whom no one believed),but by doing something about the corpse lying openly next door (in the heat). After all, it was the discovery of the body which would have cooked his goose, whether he killed the boy or not.

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That's a good point, and sort of an awkward plot issue. Once the boy had told his parents and gone to the police, the murderer would have been caught as soon as they found the body, which would have begun to smell pretty awful in the high summer heat.

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Did you 2 even watch this movie? After the murder, Mr. Kelerson tells his wife that there's nothing to connect them to the dead body. Plus, NOBODY believes the boy. That's what the whole movie is about - the boy that cried wolf. Also, it's reasonable that the condemned building would be leveled because it was falling down and dangerous. This would've buried the body, and it might not have ever been found.

What I think is silly is that they brought the victim into their home, wanting to drug him and steal his money. That's pretty stupid because the guy knows where he is or was the night before when he wakes up. What happens then? They should've gone to a hotel room, not their own home!

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"NOBODY believes the boy".

After finding the body where the killers left it, the boy`s tale would be a bit more difficult to dismiss as a dream or a lie, don`t you think? So indeed after the killers found out the kid had gone to the police with his story, removing the corpse would have been the obvious priority.


"Also, it`s reasonable that the condemned building would be leveled because it was falling down and dangerous".

And when would that have happened? In a month? A year? If I were a killer, I sure wouldn`t put my trust in such uncertainties.



"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

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It was a number of doors away (237 to 225 Holt Street). I agree that disposing of the body would be a necessity, once he knew the boy had reported the murder (because if it was subsequently found, the police would likely make a connection), but that doesn't exclude his killing the boy as the best insurance policy.

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Yes, that was the best insurance policy . . .

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Naturally, I'm glad the story ends as it does. However, looking at it from the other perspective...

> Moving the body, not a good option
-not easy to get to it; the condition of the building is bad
-lots of people around during the day
-police patrols are in the area at night
-body's too heavy to easily carry or cart away
-Kellersons have no car
-an alternate site would have to be found
-more time near/with the body raises odds of being seen, leaving evidence, getting caught

> Killing Tommy, also not a wise move
-he's been to the police
-he's told people he fears the Kellersons; afraid he'll be their next victim
-if his body's found, timing raises suspicion; too much of a coincidence
-Kellersons likely to be investigated/questioned; the wife is likely to crack
-if he's not found, runaway note may help but the police would be called
-police report and Tommy's prior state of mind would be considered; taken seriously
-neighborhood would be searched thoroughly
-Kellersons may panic, make mistakes
-the first body would likely be found, before full decomposition can set in
-disposing of another body, again changes odds of being seen, transfering evidence, getting caught, etc.

> Kellersons leave town or area, best bet
-no one believes Tommy; nothing supports his allegations
-no reason to kill someone else; especially a kid
-no need to move the body
-leaving raises suspicions; no need to reveal where they're headed
-wait one or two days; say relocation is for work, family, uncomfortable with accusations, whatever, etc.
-by the time the body is found, if ever, they'd be long gone, hard to find
-Tommy would eventually stop telling the story and/or Woodry's move on
-if body is found, decomposition was accelerated due to heat, moisture, etc.
-if cause of death can't be determined, the body can't be connected to them
-other causes of death would be considered: heat exposure, accident, random crime, etc.

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Yes, but Tommy is notorious for playing around the whole building, especially the fire escapes . . . he cold easily have an accident . . . conveniently eliminated, and believable . . . who would doubt it?

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hisgrandmogulhighness says >Tommy is notorious for playing around the whole building, especially the fire escapes . . . he cold easily have an accident . . . conveniently eliminated, and believable . . . who would doubt it?
Okay but we're looking at this from the perspective of the killers. If we were talking about expanding the plot or writing another movie that would be different but we're not.

Why would the Kellersons commit another crime especially murder and risk arousing suspicion that could lead to further scrutiny or to their capture? Let's not forget, they're trying to get away with something; theft and murder to be exact. Killing Tommy doesn't help in that regard at all especially because, at that point, no one's buying his story.

If Tommy dies, even accidentally, or goes missing, any of the following (or any number of other things) could occur:

- Even in those days, there were forensics and medical examiners. They may not have had today's sophisticated tools and tests but they usually could tell if someone had been 'helped' to die – was pushed, had injuries inconsistent with their 'accident', etc. If he goes missing, other neighbors may have heard the commotion or seen something that ties Tommy to the Kellersons just before going missing. The officer on the beat and the cabbie had also seen Tommy with them earlier that night and they were talking about beating him.

- Even if it appeared to be an accident, the police would be called. They could start asking questions and if it's discovered the dead kid had recently been to the police station in fear and carrying on about a murder, any good investigator would have to consider the possibility the killers bumped off the witness; or they'd have to rule it out. One trip down to the station, that daffy Mrs. K might spill the beans. That may be enough to get them arrested and convicted of both or either murder. If not, it's still not in their benefit either. They're criminals. As such, they don't want to be on the police's radar for any reason.

- Even if it doesn't happen that way, the officers who had met Tommy may feel a sense of guilt or responsibility for not having believed him or taken him seriously. They could take it upon themselves to take another look at the couple. If the Kellersons get spooked, they'd probably end up leaving town anyway. At that point, it would seem more suspicious to up and leave just when the police are asking questions. By then, the police may have enough info to be able to track them back to family or prior known locations. The police may also uncover previous crimes, arrest records, or complaints. I’m sure this isn’t the Kellersons’ first rodeo. The police would likely alert other jurisdictions; limiting the Kellersons’ ability to move around, establish a new life elsewhere, and continue in their line of work. Sometimes all it takes is one loose string to unravel an entire tapestry.

- Tommy's parents would be grieving the death of their only child. It's not unusual for people to suddenly forget a loved one's faults after their death; especially soon after. They'd realize Tommy wasn't such a bad kid and, as you pointed out, he'd been up and down those fire escapes for years. He even slept out there at times. Oh wait..., that's when that story would pop into their heads and nag at them. They'd wonder if perhaps he had seen something after all. He did say they would try to kill him next. What a coincidence; maybe even a bit too convenient.

- No doubt, the Kellersons would stop by to pay their respects and offer condolences. They'd have to keep up appearances; not doing so might raise suspicion. Again, Mrs. K would be overcome with guilt. She didn't want the kid killed. Her behavior, if not that day, but day in and day out seeing Tommy's parents or walking past their door or hearing his death discussed by neighbors, etc. would likely break her and lead her to give them away. Why risk that? Again, they'd have to hightail it out of there but now with two murders over their heads and possible question marks.

- It seems all roads lead to them leaving town. Doesn't it make sense to do that before people start looking in their direction? Thankfully, criminals usually get caught; sometimes it's directly related to their crime; other times it's due to the things they do as part of the cover-up. It's not unlike telling lies to cover up an initial lie and having the whole thing explode in the liar's face.

Leaving Tommy alone may seem counter-intuitive but really it's not. Given the circumstances, along with leaving town, it's the only thing that makes sense for the Kellersons. Ironically, while I do want them to pay for their crimes and I do NOT want any harm to come to Tommy, going after him actually increases the odds they will NOT get away with what they've done.

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Here's a real life example:

A few years ago I heard this strange story about a Brazilian criminal and drug dealer. He had a lucrative crime/drug business going in one of Brazil's favelas (slum neighborhoods). He started worrying about a bunch of homeless kids who were always hanging around, committing petty crimes, and attracting the attention of the police to his area.

Long story short, he murdered or otherwise 'got rid of' quite a few of the kids. Like a fool, he thought if he got rid of these unwanted kids the constant police visits would come to an end or at least be less frequent.

Naturally, a bunch of dead kids, even forgotten street kids attracted a greater police presence and the guy was eventually caught. While serious, his other crimes were only compounded by the fact he murdered all those kids.

It's bad enough to commit one crime, but committing other crimes, often equally or more serious in nature, to cover-up the original crime makes absolutely no sense. All it does is ratchet up the situation making it more, not less, likely, the criminal will get caught.

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This user is from the old IMDb boards but still what a great explanation!!
He or she prove that the killers are indeed silly. Try to kill Tommy, a kid that no one believe him was a stupid idea. They even got him into a taxi. in the first min I thought "no way it's a random taxi, the driver must be a collaborator or friend" the but NO.

A mistake no one mentioned yet was to leave the window open while committing a crime and I am not talking about the murder. They planned to rob a "customer" before the murder took place. So they were clumsy even before the murder.

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