Snowball


Was it an intentional symbol that the cat be white? I ask because I found the film very dark and the white cat on the chair in front of the fire seemed an image of light and happiness/comfort that seemed lacking in Sammy's life.

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And an image of light and happiness/comfort that was missing after Sammy's row with Susan, along with her photo.

Kathleen told us that it was actually her cat, that's why it was so well behaved. It was used to seeing her around

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Kathleen told us that it was actually her cat, that's why it was so well behaved.
So, do you think this cat was used because it would conform to filming (!) and not because of its colour? When did Ms Byron share that anecdote?
an image of light and happiness/comfort that was missing after Sammy's row with Susan, along with her photo
He seemed most distraught when he called Snowball's name after seeing Susan's photo gone. Poor Sammy.

As an aside: what as it about defusing the German bomb on the beach that enabled Sammy to pick himself up and go the Ministry at the end? Something in the process seemed to change him but without watching again, what eludes me.
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Kathleen presented a screening of Black Narcissus at the NFT in London in March 2000 when they ran a season of P&P films there. She stayed for a Q&A session afterwards where she talked with Ian Christie about all the films she made for P&P.

My friend Natacha & I blagged our way into the reception afterwards (with the assistance of Columba Powell) where we chatted to Kathleen and she signed my AMOLAD book (the one by Eric Warman)

That season included some of Kathleen's other films like Prelude to Fame (1950) as a special session "Close-up: Kathleen Byron"

They also showed all the currently existing early films by Powell with an introduction and discussion led by Sergio Angelini of the National Film and Television Archive

It was a great month of P&P films at the NFT. I was there almost every day
See http://www.powell-pressburger.org/NFT/Program.html#Kathleen


As for Sammy in SBR...
I think that it wasn't just the defusing that made Sammy go to the Ministry. It was the combination of realising that he could do things that he thought were difficult or awkward (Susan accused him of being best at feeling sorry for himself and of giving up - that he though of himself as a person that it was just too bad about), that Susan was coming back to him and that she wanted him to go, and that he could cope with the politics due to people like R.B. and Pinker. Also, that he could make a good contribution to the war effort.

He had to battle his inner demons to defuse the bomb. Partly his drunken state but also his own strength and determination. Remember he refused assistance from Strang.

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Thanks Steve for your interesting reply and anecdotes! Your P&P devotion has managed to create a whole world of experience that you wouldn't have otherwise enjoyed.

I think that it wasn't just the defusing that made Sammy go to the Ministry. It was the combination of realising that he could do things that he thought were difficult or awkward (Susan accused him of being best at feeling sorry for himself and of giving up - that he though of himself as a person that it was just too bad about), that Susan was coming back to him and that she wanted him to go, and that he could cope with the politics due to people like R.B. and Pinker. Also, that he could make a good contribution to the war effort.

He had to battle his inner demons to defuse the bomb. Partly his drunken state but also his own strength and determination. Remember he refused assistance from Strang.
It is interesting how the defusing of the bomb seemed to renew something in him and perhaps Susan returned because she heard about this -? An interesting study in depression/alcoholism anyway and one I will need to rewatch, but not just yet!
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Thanks Steve for your interesting reply and anecdotes! Your P&P devotion has managed to create a whole world of experience that you wouldn't have otherwise enjoyed.

It's certainly an interesting hobby (or obsession) that has led to meeting a lot of interesting people and visiting a lot of interesting places. Quite a few people who helped make those wonderful films, the family of those no longer with us, academics who study & write about them and other film-makers and audience members who have been inspired by them.


The Small Back Room (1949) is worth watching a few times. Like many of their B&W films it's been overlooked by many people, but there's a lot in there that is well worth seeing.

It's also worth reading the original novel by Nigel Balchin that it's based on. I knew the film quite well before I read the book and I was sure that some of the concise dialogue was typical of Emeric Pressburger. Like their scene on the Embankment when Sammy gets the day wrong:

Susan: Where were you going Sammy?
Sammy: I don't know.
Susan: A woman?
Sammy: Maybe.
Susan: How about me?

But reading the book I discovered that that's actually straight out of the book

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Thanks for the book recommendation. Pressburger adapted the book well then.

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Yes, but remember that every other film they made together from Contraband (1940) to [b]The Red Shoes (1948) apart from Black Narcissus (1947) was an original story by Emeric. He was so much more than just "Powell's scriptwriter" as some have dubbed him.

Oh, and all those films they made together in that golden period from 1939 to 1951, they were making at least one feature film per year. How long does it take most film-makers to make a film nowadays, with the benefit of all that modern technology? Many think they're doing well if they can make a major film in 5 years.

For the first part of their period together there was a world war going on and the country was being bombed regularly. But they still managed to turn out some amazing films that we're still fascinated by over 60 years later.

It's their total body of work that I find to be one of their major achievements. They worked in colour and in B&W, they made dramas, adventures, romances and films about ballet & opera. They made many films during the war but hardly any of them show anyone fighting. Their films often had people speaking in foreign languages but they never used subtitles.

How many other film-makers managed a record anything like that? A few maybe, but you can probably count them on the fingers of one hand

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Yes, but remember that every other film they made together from Contraband (1940) to [b]The Red Shoes (1948) apart from Black Narcissus (1947) was an original story by Emeric. He was so much more than just "Powell's scriptwriter" as some have dubbed him.
I wasn't undermining Pressburger's adaptation of the book. After all he could, in choosing what to use for the script, have omitted that conversation betwen Susan and Sammy that you quoted. A talented writer will be better at editing a book for a film script, which Pressburger was quite clearly.
Oh, and all those films they made together in that golden period from 1939 to 1951, they were making at least one feature film per year. How long does it take most film-makers to make a film nowadays, with the benefit of all that modern technology? Many think they're doing well if they can make a major film in 5 years.
Good point. P&P appear to have had a constant team of technicians and actors who worked with them, which might have helped in shooting and production.

I agree with everything else you write and this
Their films often had people speaking in foreign languages but they never used subtitles
is one of my favourites things about them and their films.
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P&P appear to have had a constant team of technicians and actors who worked with them, which might have helped in shooting and production.

Yes, it was really the whole team who were "The Archers".

There was a pool of actors and technicians who they called on again and again. People were queuing up to work with them because they all knew that The Archers produced the best films around and that they worked as a co-operative where anyone could make suggestions as to how things could be done better.

Powell always made the final decision as to whether these suggestions were used and Pressburger was always around during filming to make sure that any late changes (of which there were many) fitted neatly into the plot structure.

It really was a most unusual way of working, but it did work, very successfully

Steve

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