is this where Tarantino got his idea for Bruce Willis charcter in PF
"You're just as bad as Raskilnov"
Probably. Tarantino has acknowledged that the Willis character
was supposed to be the old film noir boxer prototype, so it could
have been this film due to the fact that this is the best noir boxing
picture ever made.
I do not think, therefore I am a mustache.
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I think it was a definite influence. But there is a lot of differences between the characters and their motivations so I would imagine he drew on a few sources.
sharei dont think this was where he was directly inspired by, by there are a few similarities between stoker and butch, yes... its possible qt just took different classic boxing movies such as this one and just combined different aspects of each one into the character and story of butch in pulp fiction, ya know?
sharei think bruce willis's character was based on james garfield's character from "body and soul," another boxing noir -- in fact, if i remember correctly, there are similar shots of both characters lying down in the locker room and then rapidly sitting up (both before matches they were supposed to throw)
share' James '? Garfield. Never heard of him.
sharehe just told his buddies who were all going to write and direct 1 part of a 3 part movie to develop a short around the oldest, most archetypal crime plots of all time, ones done dozens of times in movies that everyone is familiar with. one was a guy taking the big boss's wife out, the second was the boxer who refuses to throw the fight, and the third was a botched jewelry heist. the idea to have 3 directors make each part fell through, tarantino expanded the last one into reservoir dogs, then he replaced the final third with the aftermath of an accidental murder. the set-up is not the first movie to be about a boxer who refuses to throw a fight, but i'm sure tarantino's very familiar with it.
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I kinda got the same idea when I was watching this film. I was half expecting Stoker to jump out of second story window and catch a cab(like Butch did) to escape the thugs after he didn't throw the fight. Great film.
http://www.dvdaficionado.com/dvds.html?cat=1&sub=All&id=squid_vicious
the page for this film says that he did
Tarantino continues to steal.
shareSee also: Hemingway's short strory "The Killers" (and probably the movies based on it), where there is a character called Ole Andreson. He's a boxer who has double-crossed somebody and these two hitmen (dressed in black) are coming to town to kill him.
shareA very different story. The Swede (a.k.a. Ole Andersen) was part of a big robbery and he was set-up to be the guy who double-crossed everyone and made off with the loot, which did cost him his life, but in actuality, it was the guy who was the boss of the robbery crew who double-crossed everyone else. Him, and The Swede's girl.
Or, at least that's how the film was made. I guess Hemmingway's story does not go into the details.