Cheating - It Happens Every Spring Discussion

[–] howard813 17 years ago

yes.

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[–] mercury4 17 years ago

Thank you. I'm glad someone responded.

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Yeah, it's cheating, but professional baseball is the one sport where cheating is more or less condoned-as long as you don't get caught.

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[–] cowgoesmoo 15 years ago

Agreed. It's an old baseball adage - "It ain't cheating if you don't get caught."

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[–] nhubacker 15 years ago

No, it's still cheating. You guys ever hear of the concept of "morality"?

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[–] jimbo-38 15 years ago

I'm not condoning or denouncing it. I'm just telling you the mindset of professional baseball.

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[–] cowgoesmoo 15 years ago

We never said it wasn't. Professional sports is filled with athletes cheating to get an edge - look at exposure of rampant steroid use. It was no different then than now.

I just finished watching this movie on TCM and the closing remarks by the host said that Major League Baseball's Commissioner refused to endorse the film because of the cheating.

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[–] novastar_6 15 years ago

Personally, I got less of a problem with a guy doctoring a ball with a scientific formula than all that steroid mess the athletes put themselves through in order to be the best.

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[–] mase44 15 years ago

Corked bats, scuffing the ball, It's part of the game. Is it cheating? Yes it is, but it is part of the game, and as someone said. It's only cheating if you get caught. Is it cheating if an outfielder short hops a line drive and the umpire calls the batter out on a catch. Is the fielder cheating because he knows he didn't catch it. It's all part of the game, but I have to say I don't like the steroid stuff. So where do you draw the line?

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[–] tody711 15 years ago

It is just starting on TCM and the moderator explained the Cheating in the movie. Major Leagues Baseball would not participate in the movie due to this cheating theme, and no real ball players were allowed to be in it. So just take it for what it is, a funny movie. OK?

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[–] mase44 15 years ago

And yet MLB allowed Angels in the Outfield to be made with their consent and cooperation. Imagine that, what's worse then Angels cheating. I'm sure if It Happens Every Spring were remade today MLB would be involved. It was probably just one mans opinion that stopped it from happening back in 1949.

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[–] DJMan-51 14 years ago

After those incredible curves he threw, you don't think that the team at bat would have demanded that the umpires frisk this guy, as they often did to Don Drysdale, Joe Niekro and Gaylord Perry? And what would happen when they discover the sponge in his glove? Since 1920, it isn't legal to even put *water* on the ball.

A fun film, but it requires "suspension of disbelief."

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[–] ec1979 11 years ago

It's cheating and this movie has a terrible moral because the cheater gets away with it, which is why pro baseball wanted itching to do with the movie and all the characters had to be fictionalized.

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[–] leader-7 11 years ago

he didn't know he was cheating. he was a nerdy scientist who had little experience with any sport, let alone baseball, and just tried out the mixture (which if you remember, was created accidentally by the spilling of the chemicals into his lab sink) after he saw the wood repel the ball.

It's fiction. It's fun. it's just a story. No moral compass needs to be imposed here.

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[–] ec1979 11 years ago

Stupidity or ignorance don't make cheating ok. It's just a bad message.

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[–] leader-7 11 years ago

omg. OMFG.

It's a fictional story.

And I suppose your moral compass is beyond reproach? When did you last walk on water?

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[–] ec1979 11 years ago

If it's just a story, why are you getting all worked-up about my opinion of it? I don't cheat and I don't like movies that send a message about cheating being ok. I'm entitled to my opinion. Maybe you should work on not taking it personally.

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[–] leader-7 11 years ago

and maybe, since it's a story we ask that you stop moralizing and pontificating over it and let it go.

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[–] ec1979 11 years ago

I expressed my opinion, which I'm entitled to. Last time I checked, this is still a free country. You're free to disagree but don't attack me because I stated an opinion. Calm down.

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[–] thbryn 10 years ago

It starts with the select few who own the franchises in MLB. If they wanted to enforce the rules on the books there would be no cheating. They don't.

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