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this film is so funny.
picture a rainy day, 8am in the morning in Staines, Middlesex, Uk...got up to make some toast and this was on TCM. absolutley loved this film, it was so funny and all the characters were great. its those kind of rainy days in the twilight that these films are really complemented. so magical.

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My favorite time to watch this movie on dvd is late at night, as is the case with many of my old B/W dvds. Rainy days too. This is a great movie, the only thing I havee some trouble overlooking is the fact Grant is supposed to be a Frechman and has not a single trace of an accent. Beyond that, magic...
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yes the accent, what's up with that?

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Well, it's like Sean Connery - he always keeps his accent in movies but people love him so much they don't care.

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Many actors refuse to use an "ethnic" accent in their movies. Ie. Claude Rains in Casablanca or Clark Gable in Gone With The Wind. Others like Sir Laurence Olivier always used accents to make their characters seem more believable, French-(49th Parallel), German-(Marathon Man), Jewish-(The Boys From Brazil),and Mideastern as The Mahdi-(Khartoum). Robin Williams used some kind Jewish-Polish accent in Jakob The Liar. My guess it is a matter of temperment.

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I can usually let most so-called accents slide, but because the last half of the film so fully depends on Henri's being French and because Cary Grant doesn't even attempt at a French accent (and the few times that he does speak French reeks of an English accent), the film falls apart and it really wasn't that funny to begin with.

An unfortunate dud from a great director, one of the greatest film stars, and an actress who never really became the star that she should've been. The film had so much potential but amazingly, the film was far too slow, which is something I have a hard time believing for a Howard Hawks film. I usually love Ann Sheridan, but she was disappointingly weak as a Hawksian Woman and as a Cary Grant love interest--whenever she was supposed to say something biting it only came out as mean or bitchy. What happened to the girl who rebuffed both Bogie and George Raft's offer to rent her "headlights" in They Drive by Night? And Cary Grant, possibly from the film's time/budget going overboard and also contracting hepatitis, just looked tired and like he wanted to go home.

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I rather like I Was A Male War Bride but not one of Hawks' best.

Hawks didn't like Ann Sheridan very much. Bogdanovich liked her in the film to which Hawks said, "she was one of the few actresses who became a star by never appearing in a great film." Pretty harsh but not without it's truth. She did however appear in Leo McCarey's Good Sam which is great.



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I'd argue that Angels With Dirty Faces is a great film.

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Well not everyone from France is French im assuming, Im sure there are plenty of English born ppl their (who are bi lingual but do not have a heavy french accent)... I dont know for sure, but its very pausable to be from a country and not necessarily speak their native tongue or possess thier accent...but in most cases in movies, characters claiming to be from a specific country usually do use the countries typical accent... i dunno, i thought it was kinda strange too, but never judge a book by its cover..... was an ok movie i gave it a 5... not my fave Grant movie thats for sure ... cheers all


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Very few stars back then did accents. James Stewart once said he didn't do accents because it just serves as a distraction from the story and acting--viewers are prone to concentrate on the accent to see if you are doing it right. It really doesn't make sense, anyway. If a French movie with French stars were doing, say, a Western, do you think they ought to speak French with a Texas twang? It's called suspension of disbelief. If you can't get the hang of that, I say to those people, go do something else.

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I also saw it on TCM

funny film indeed



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One of my faves!

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In the end, Grant just looks American! I don't think he quite pulled off the French captain role - a miscast.

Except, of course, that Grant wasn't an American. He was a native Brit.

And he was every bit as much French as Claude Rains' character in Casablanca (which is to say: neither is at all French, but that doesn't hurt the respective movies).

The most important thing here, as in all romantic comedies, is the chemistry between the two leads. I quite like Grant with Sheridan; reminds me just a little bit of Grant's interaction with Rosalind Russell in His Girl Friday. Personally, though, I prefer the first half of this movie over the second half. Once they get into the title situation, the writing seems to devolve into just checking off all of the obvious cliche gags. Everything feels sharper and more original to me before they get married; or engaged, for that matter.



surely a French officer who speaks impeccable English would have spoken German too? - at least some.

It depends on why his English is so good. Maybe he had cousins in Britain with whom he spent summers as a boy.

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Maybe the character did have British family, but nothing points to that in the film

There's nothing that precludes it either.

The point was that there is nothing intrinsically contradictory about a French officer speaking impecable English with an accent that is more English than American (really, no American speaks with an accent anything like Grant's unless they're doining an impression of him). Such people do exist.

Now if they let us hear him speaking French with a significant anglophone's accent, that would be inconsistent with the character.



Cary Grant is world-renowned as an American screen actor

Grant is / was a world renowned actor in American movies, which is not quite the same thing as being and "American screen actor"; see Russell Crowe, Nicole Kidman, Julie Andrews, and Audrey Hepburn (all of whom are known primarily for American movies, but none of whom are thought of as "American actors" by much of anyone). Cary Grant (or rather Archie Leech) wasn't just born in Britain, he grew up and spent his formative years there. He didn't cross the Atlantic to the States until he was an adult (granted, a relatively young adult).

I tend to suspect that the Grant accent that we know is probably not the one that he grew up with. It seems rather too "posh" for his background. I know that Claude Rains retrained himself into a much more upper class accent when he decided to start performing for a living (I've read that when Rains dropped back into his original Cockney his own children had trouble undertanding him). I suspect that Grant probably had to do that as well.

You mentioned To Catch a Thief. Recall that it becomes a somewhat significant point that he is considered to be "not American enough" to be believed as a vacationing American. For Grant, that made perfect sense; that same section of dialog would have been absurd if John Roby had been played by someone such as James Stewart or Henry Fonda or Burt Lancaster (to include another actor with the acrobatic background hepful for the role of The Cat).




Compare Charles de Gaulle with Winston Churchill and you'll have some idea of what I mean. De Gaulle has a longer face and a slimmer build, and more sallow skin. Churchill is broader and paler and has a round face.

Or we can invert the whole thing by changing the names. How about Gerard Depardieu or Jean Gabin on the French side and Basil Rathbone or Lawrence Olivier on the English side? I think you're overgeneralizing.




The French just have a different aura - a different appearance and a different way of holding themselves.

Actually, Grant's posture / carriage / "way of holding himself" in this movie reminds me a fair amount of Charles DeGaulle. They both have that bolt upright continental army officer thing going on in the way that they carry themselves. Again, I think that you were overgeneralizing.

Watch La Grande Illusion for a French depiction of differences in such things as personal bearing being more dependent on social class than on nationality. (At least within "The Western World".)

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Would that be Staines-on-Thames? And what kind of detergent do you need to get it out? ;)

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I just pictured what you described and felt so good! I mean, this is the kind of stuff I LOVE too! Wish I could do that someday (not here in this crazy concrete jungle)

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I Was a Male War Bride was a great comedy for gags and misunderstood moments. Fantastic chemistry between Grant and Sheridan.

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