MovieChat Forums > Holiday Affair (1949) Discussion > What's wrong with 'comparison shopping?'

What's wrong with 'comparison shopping?'


Why was it a quasi-crime? Couldn't anyone just walk into a store and ask how much something costs? Or did you have to buy something to find out the cost, which seems unlikely and absurd.

Can anyone explain?

reply

[deleted]

Years ago, I was shopping with my grandmother and someone called us on it. My grandma told the store detective: "I want to get the best price." They told her they would give her the lowest price she found if she could prove it. And they did! So we got a real good deal on our first color TV. LOL!

reply

Thanks, Texas. What a sweet story!

Such a strange concept to have "comparison shopping" (which is really just "shopping," isn't it?) not allowed. I'd love to know the history of this concept -- when did it become acceptable, for example.

reply

Also, if you recall she wasnโ€™t just 'comparison shopping' she was actually taking the item to her employer, who then opened up the product and 'tested' against similar products her store was selling. Once the testing was complete, she was required to return the item as if she didn't want it... and there was the problem. I think even today stores would have a problem with this... if they knew about it.

Certified homeless enabler for fun and profit since 1993. TAX THE POOR MORE !!!

reply

But why was Mitchum fired ?? The floor manager insisted he wait on Leigh ! Remember Mitchums line about her having 'friends in high places ..." He was referring to the floor manager.
Yeah, a minor point and I only thought of it for the 1st time today after years of enjoying this great old film !!

reply

He gets fired because he didn't turn her in.

And I'm posting this 4 years after I started this thread. I have to admit, I'm still not sure why comparison shopping was a crime. The above poster said something about not writing things down, but why would that matter? It's a free country.

today we even have apps to comparison shop. Times have changed, I guess.

Only thing I can see even slightly wrong with it is taking something off the shelves for a day or two, but even that doesn't seem so terrible. Reminds me of Jerry Seinfeld trying to return something for "spite." I mean, what difference does it make why you return something?

reply

Well when you buy something in order to return it, you are twice (or more, factoring in restocking) occupying store manpower (at the busiest time of year) for actions that aren't going to lead to the store making money, or even potentially lead to the store making money.

Also, and perhaps more importantly, this woman wasn't comparison shopping for personal purposes or for some kind of comparison shopping publication. She was an agent for a rival department store. She was coming into the store in the movie taking actions which were meant (if indirectly) to profit her store at the expense of the store she was comparison shopping in. It seems perfectly reasonable that the store would not want another store's agent infiltrating it in order to gain an edge and take away business. Imagine a guy with a Target I.D. badge walking around a Walmart taking pictures of all its displays and product layouts and the prices on the shelves. I'm pretty sure store security would detain him as soon as he was spotted.

Off the topic, but TCM is showing this for the second time in the past days and I've got to say it's one of the best movies I've seen in a while. And it's even better the second time around- you catch a bunch of great moments that didn't have quite so much impact the first time around due to having seen Mitchum's comments from the latter half of the movie.

reply

I agree about the movie, truwarier. And one of the things that makes it so good -- and something it has in common with "It's a Wonderful Life" and "A Christmas Story" -- is that the little boy actor is so terrific. Not the usual child-actor hokum. He seems like a real kid. His excitement on Christmas morning -- and the way he eats the cereal despite missing teeth -- is just such a joy to watch.

reply

wow! well done! ๎€”



๐ŸŽ„Season's Greetings!๐ŸŽ๐ŸŽ…๐ŸŽ„

reply

Some people keep "price books" to track the prices of items from different stores. I have heard, second hand, that many stores don't like the practice and if they think you are working for the competition they may ban you from the store. Legally, it's not a crime. But also, legally they can refuse whomever they wish admittance to their store. If the person comes back they are now tresspassing and can be arrested. However, the tresspass charge is usually reserved for shoplifters who have been caught in the past and are now not welcome.

Nobody gets to be a cowboy forever.

reply

I used to have to do comparison shopping when I worked for K Mart, back in the eighties. Most of the other store managers had no problem with it. But, when Walmart came to town, things changed. They would actually tell comparison shoppers to leave. Which was pretty sad, because they would send their employees to the competition to check prices. People had to be creative when checking Walmart prices. A lot of them used concealed tape recorders and took a friend with them, to chat about prices while they "shopped."

reply

Looks like none of you noticed that Connie Innis was also doing a little "comparison shopping" when it came to her search for a husband.

reply

I imagine they have to buy the item in order to get a receipt that confirms the price, hence the other store can beat it. If that's all that goes on, it's not so bad given it's returned to the original store in new condition but what she does in this story is pretty low, opening the packages and/or measuring it up to other products, hence she is returning a used item that often cannot be restocked. As it is in the story, it's kind of a dirty job and I don't have much sympathy for her. I like her brazen nerve (at least in the 1955 tv version) were she sees her antics gets one man fired from his job at the department store and then she turns around in goes into another department to continue her dirty deeds and buys some underwear from another seller!! I guess she got away with it a second time since the underwear was inexpensive whereas on the train set they were instantly suspicious of her buying it without blinking.

Price comparsion shopping is not bad in itself as a consumer and I would imagine most people do it but you don't have to write down the price or buy it at one store, just remember the price, doing it professionally is a bit different. I suspect some stores still have employees checking out the rival's prices but buying it when you are definitely planning to return it seems classless to me.

reply

I, myself, was a comparison shopper for Macy's in NYC one summer. We were given bus or subway fare and a list of items we were supposed to look for in each of several dept. stores. We did not have to buy the items, just write down the prices. It was a pretty easy job, but I remember it was a little tricky to surreptitiously write down prices without sales people noticing--not that it mattered to them, probably. I just felt self-conscious, because I knew what I was up to! Macy's then had a policy that no one undersold them.

reply

SOmeone said it should just just easy to remember the prices.
It's not. For example the last time I had to do this was for a new perfume. They made several sizes, with minor differences and some sizes were exclusive to some chains, so it wasn't easy to compare the price because you had to calculate how much it cost per ml or oz, so try to do that by memory. Not easy.

And as for workforce being used up for buying and returning, it's all down to manpower used to sell. Next you'll say that people should just come in, take the item from the shelf and go to the counter themselves so as not to bother the sales force with questions?
Also, if a store decides to charge more for an item that someone else is selling at a lower price, then they sure can afford to lose some work time from their employees for people who decide that it's stupid to pay more for the same item when someone is selling it for less.
Also remember this was the 40s, not like these days you've got bare-bones sale force storage shops that put real stores out of business.

reply

Stores still do this. I had a friend that worked for a grocery store chain and was occasionally sent out of town on day trips for "secret shops" at stores both part of the chain and part of other chains. He had a specific list of things to buy and what to look for at the stores. He was comparing cleanliness, friendliness, helpfulness, consumers in the store, layout, lighting, pricing errors, etc. Comparison shoppers looks at everything, not just price. There are also online comparison shoppers that test customer service. They kept her job duties simple in the movie, but there was a lot to it. Even when prices are the same, such as the stockings she reports on, she would have reported customer services, etc.

reply

Stores still do this?

Have they not heard of Google Shopping.



It's that man again!!

reply