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Illegal immigration history...


This is an excellent film history subjective on the beginning of the US/Mexico immigration issues. Despite its film noir atmosphere (which only enhances the pathos), citizens from both sides of this Norte Americano borderline should view this 1950 film with an eye towards understanding the problematic social and political issues of the illegal immigration challenges the United States and Mexico are still imbroglio'd over into the 21st Century.

The acting is often superb. The scenes are authentic, well-conceived, well-shot and sometimes brutal even by today's standards. What I find particularly appealing about this film is it's sense of 'genuineness' and lack of political spin. It 'appears' to have gone through the UCLA film-enhancement process for celluloid regeneration (I haven't verified that) because of the visual and sound excellence for a film of it's age.

Wonderfully produced and directed, it's content is justification for inclusion into archival material - not to mention it's sensually-captivating scenes and storyline for viewers and historians alike.

Bob Shank Jr.
Tucson, AZ

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I agree. Bonehead Republicans railing against "illegals" need to see where their fresh veggies come from and give some respect to the desperate people who do jobs no American would do.

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Speaking as a "bonehead Republican" (of sorts), I know exactly where my beans & greens come from-- an enormous garden in the half acre behind my house. I also raise fowl for eggs, meat and down, and I know exactly how hard farm work can be, having picked pears with the Braceros since the mid-50s, and planted orchards and vinyards later, in addition to the annual gardens.

More to the point, my bonehead kids know firsthand about "jobs no American would do," including wholesale-caliber dumpster-diving to keep our livestock fed. From my perspective during decades of experience (and I've been paying attention to detail), the boneheads who have only a hazy idea of where their "fresh veggies" come from tend to be from the other side of the aisle-- admit it, the kind of urban boneheads you have in mind probably don't set as high a value on "fresh veggies" as their more trendy and of course health-minded counterparts on the boneheaded Left. Right? Aren't these redneck proles you're so blithely demonizing more prone to eating fast food and fries?

For most of our history we have had a guest worker program and a pretty fast track to citizenship for Mexicans born south of the border-- you'd be surprised how many people doing those awful veg-harvesting jobs ARE Americans of Mexican descent, whose ancestors were made U.S. citizens not by immigrating but by living in the SW and Texas in the 1840s when the border "emigrated" south of them.

The issue that has befouled our admittedly imperfect system, and made it a crisis, is the criminalization of some of those vegetables-- driving the price of certain leafy matter so artificially high that all sorts of brave people have risked imprisonment to grow and harvest these vegetables. Since they've been illegal for so long, people who succeed at this game have had to evolve their own security systems (can't call the cops when your supply is raided by competitors)-- and that has created a "gang" and "drug lord" culture that would not exist if not for overreaching by the nanny State. Yes, Big Government trying to save you from yourself.

And last I heard, boneheaded Republicans were far less friendly to the encroachment of governmental power than their hyperosteocephalic counterparts on the wrong side of the aisle.

So the issue is a lot more complex than your parroted talking points imply-- especially your insult to hard-working Americans who ARE willing to do gruelling and menial jobs, in particular the ones who'd rather do backbreaking work than accept government assistance.

That said, there is a simple solution that would defuse the problem of crime and violence-- rescind all Prohibition against botanical commodities, and take the illegal profit out of that entire (enormous) industry overnight.

Unfortunately the bonehead factor shifts polarity, and the dolts on the right of the aisle tend to obstruct that solution more than Godless leftists do. So we all have mud on our hands when it comes to illicit agriculture, draconian laws against it-- and the crime crisis these factors have created within the immigration phenomenon.

You seem poised (in your intellectual development) to discover the fact that most of us, of whatever simplistic political labeling, are boneheads. I have hopes that you'll have a more even-handed vision of our boneheadedness, quit insulting honest and hardworking people (who may have more empathy toward their brethren south of the border than you realize)-- and put the blame where it more plausibly belongs, on that overreaching nanny State I mentioned a while back. Cheap legal drugs do not make "drug lords" necessary, and would give their "gang" minions no real reason to exist.

Maybe we should make alcohol and gambling legal first, and see whether all that machine-gunning by gangsters in the streets of Chicago lessens any. If so, marijuana and the other drugs would be a logical next step. Ya think?

And BTW, if you've ever grown and tended and harvested that sh*t, you know Americans ARE willing to do that kind of work-- and always have been.

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Yikes! I thought this was supposed to be a sharing of thoughts on a movie. Let's just say there are boneheads on both sides of aisle - right and "wrong." Please get off your Fox Channel soapbox and talk about the movie. I thought it was much better than I had expected. I'm going to watch it again.



"Who put the pineapple juice in my pineapple juice?"

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Kudos to your garden and self-reliance. However, most people do not have the resources you do.

"Two more swords and I'll be Queen of the Monkey People." Roseanne

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Oh yes, let's talk about the movie without talking about the movie. That's fun. What was this movie about? Gee, I don't know - some people are bad and some people are good and Fox News is bad and it's really hard to tell the difference between right and "wrong." Isn't it fun to put the word "wrong" in quotation marks like that? Because wrong isn't wrong unless it's standing on the Fox News soapbox. Then it's very wrong. Can someone please feed me some more pudding?

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"Fox Channel soapbox"? Who mentioned the Fox Channel?

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That's the typical Lefty response when faced with facts! Great post by foxfirebrand.

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