Those old shows always had the resounding "SMACK" in every fist fight. Nobody has those kinds of fists nowdays. Even boxers don't have the stuff to do it with their big gloves.
Does anybody else wish modern films had those good ole' fisticuffs?
It would bring back a lot of Patriotic American Spirit to Westerns.
Orlando B. is no good at this stuff. He can only throw weak swipes at skeletons.
Take a look at the "authorized" (Batjak) DVD of "McClintock!" starring John Wayne. There is a "special feature" about exactly this type of screen-fighting. It is a bit lame, but the two stunt people do cover the basics of punch-throwing and "selling" the blows.
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I not only loved the fights but the music that went with it.
when i was a kid playing cowboys and do a fight I was always humming the tune along with the "fight"
If one looks close it's not Jay doing Tonto's fight scenes.
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The fight scenes in most Westerns directed by William Witney are close to balletic.
May I bone your kipper, Mademoiselle?
The fight scenes in most Westerns directed by William Witney are close to balletic.
And, yeah, back on the topic itself, I enjoyed the fights too.
The ones with John Hart aren't so great. They're usually over in four strikes or less. That's not to say that he never had a good fight though. But Clayton Moore was a veteran of punchy serials and wasn't afraid to mix it up for some lengthier fights if necessary.
My favorite fight in the series is the one against Angry Horse in the Lone Ranger movie (1956). If we're sticking strictly with the TV series, I think his fight against a vengeful Confederate atop a train in The Twisted Track is the best.
FYI, in the 1952 Commando Cody movie serial "Radar Men from the Moon", Clayton Moore accidently broke lead actor George Wallace's nose during an energetic fight scene.
Moore played a "heavy": evil lunar warrior Krog's chief gangster assistant. Perhaps Moore was a "method actor" who became immersed in the role. 😉
lol.
I think I've seen that serial. He played henchmen in a couple of them. I've seen him in The Crimson Ghost. Not a serial, but there was a Gene Autry movie, The Cowboy and the Indians, where Clayton Moore was one of the villains and Jay Silverheels was one of the good guys. Unfortunately, they didn't any direct interaction together.
Speaking of Jay Silverheels, yesterday while flipping channels I stumbled upon a movie called "Lust for Gold"* and noticed Jay in the background. He played a deputy sheriff.
I had something to do, so I couldn't watch it for long. I was dying to hear Jay speak in a "non-Tonto" voice for a change.
Jay was present as the plot progressed from the sheriff's office to the hills, but he stayed in the background and didn't have any lines.
I finally had to leave, so I never did hear if he spoke at all. It's possible he didn't, since it was an uncredited bit part.
If anyone has a link (YouTube?) to a video of Jay speaking outside of his Tonto role, please share. I'd love to see him doing a Shakespeare soliloquy or something similar; I'm confident he could pull it off. 😉
* See: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041610/combined
I'm curious about his normal speaking voice as well. Even his interview with Johnny Carson had him acting in-character as Tonto.
In everything I've seen him in, whether he speaks broken or fluent English, he has a throaty accent. Sometimes, it would be played up for affect. Other times, for a more serious character, it would minimized. I don't know if it was just a part of the characters he played or if he actually had a deep, throaty accent.
I've never seen any interview or behind-the-scenes footage where he wasn't in character.
Jay was present as the plot progressed from the sheriff's office to the hills, but he stayed in the background and didn't have any lines.
I finally had to leave, so I never did hear if he spoke at all. It's possible he didn't, since it was an uncredited bit part.
The only fights that I thought were better done was from the Batman series and only because they added those cool trendy words on screen after a nice shot
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