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Whether the song fit or did not...


This movie had me glued to it from the first shot almost all the way to the end. I felt I was witnessing a slice of genius, a movie ahead of its time, daring cinema, but then that song came on, and I felt like I was watching a regular dated old smarmy Hollywood musical. Then the last scenes were perfect again. Maybe the musical number made the happy ending more palatable? For some reason I think the movie would have been stronger without the song. Why do so many people seem to be in love with it? Am I missing something? Or is it simply a matter of personal preference?










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You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I've never heard anyone object to the use of "Going Home" for the dance sequence. I think it makes that scene poignant and touching, when Jan Clayton lifts her voice in song.

I too find the film gripping from start to finish. Excellent work from the entire cast.


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The tune is the Largo movement from Dvorak's New World Symphony: I don't know whether the lyrics were written for the movie or whether the song came from elsewhere. I thought it was very effective; after all, most of these people would like nothing more than to go home. If, however, the movie weren't compelled to--as all movies & all media are--simplify, we'd know there are those better off not going home.

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>>The tune is the Largo movement from Dvorak's New World Symphony: I don't know whether the lyrics were written for the movie or whether the song came from elsewhere. <<

The text, as far as anyone seems to know, was written by William Arms Fisher, a student of Dvorak, shortly after the Symphony was written. Can't find an exact date.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Arms_Fisher

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I guess someone else is tuned in to TCM on a Sunday afternoon.

I've never seen this film before. Have I already missed the scene that this topic is about?



"You be nice to him Ben, he has ROTC!" Andy Griffith

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>>I guess someone else is tuned in to TCM on a Sunday afternoon. <<

Yep!

Based on the time I see for your post, it looks like you did see the scene in which Goin' Home is sung - hope so.

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Thanks. Yeah I saw it. The movie was pretty good IMO. I didn't realize how many awards and accolades that it received until Ben whatshisname's wrap up.

I guess Splendor in the Grass is on next... Heck, I don't have anything better to do...

edit: I'm gonna check out the "Splendor" board in case you're bored on a Sunday afternoon too.



"You be nice to him Ben, he has ROTC!" Andy Griffith

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I'm skipping "Splendor" to do much-needed housework. Enjoy (and perhaps I'll see you in the Sierra Madre -- or, at least, on the board, with a pick and shovel).

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10-4

BTW, "pick and shovel"... very good!



"You be nice to him Ben, he has ROTC!" Andy Griffith

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All I can say is how I reacted. I found the song, the moment in the movie haunting and touching. To me the song made the mood more somber, and certainly a strong touch of longing. I could imagine the longing in the people in the institution. I could also think of times I have and may long to go home.

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My sister and I watched this film when we were children,circa late 1950's. She got akick out of the "I am the First Lady of the Land" bit. But something about The Snake Pit struck us. Maybe because we were raised by our single mother, who had a hard time of it.

Just the other day I watched it when it ran on cable. I'm now 61 years old and still teared up at the "Going Home" scene.

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I took it as, here's these people; suffering in various ways, probably not always knowing what is going on around them or where they are. Sad, confused, hurt, scared ... and all they want, more than anything in the world, is to go home. For those few moments, through all their differences and various illnesses, they were "sane" enough to know what they were feeling, and joined together. It's one of the most difficult scenes for me to watch, but so worth it!

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I can see your point while at the same time I did not feel the song detracted from the forward-thinking and intelligent nature of the film. I was expecting just another of those old mental asylum horror story films, and it turned out to be intelligent, well-researched and even sensitive. Although some of the nurses were of the hard-bitten, tyrannical type one would expect and fear, we never got the feeling Virginia would be abandoned to their cruelties.

By the way, William Farmer wrote the lyrics in 1922. People mistakenly thought it was a 'Negro spiritual.'

Still not sure how I feel about the Goin' Home sequence. It's funny - I had always heard the song literally before, about actually going home, but for the first time while listening to Clayton sing this here I started to think the song must be about death. Words like these stood out to me as those of someone going to their 'heavenly rest':

"Work all done, care laid by
Going to fear no more

Mother's there 'specting me
Father's waiting, too"

I wonder whether Fisher was worried people would think that and that is why he added the lines:

"There's no break, aint no end
Jus' a livin' on
Wide awake with a smile
Going on and on"

Hmm, that could still be about death. I don't know what I think.

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