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gayest cowboy movie ever made? Most experts offer up "Red River"


"Stephan Cohan's book Masked Men discusses the definition of masculinity in the movies, especially those movies which are so stridently heterosexual that they raise doubt about what is really going on. Cohan argues that the Howard Hawks western Red River is a gay love story between John Wayne and Montgomery Clift. Clift later starred in films like Suddenly Last Summer in which his gay sexuality was actually a thematic element.

If Red River is a gay love story, how about Sands of Iwo Jima? In both of these films, women come on to John Wayne and he pushes them away. In Wayne's personal life he was not the swaggering macho man he presented himself to be. Dominated by his mother as a child, he married dominating women as an adult. He even claimed to be the victim of spousal abuse.

Is is possible that the "chemistry" between openly gay Montgomery Clift and macho man John Wayne reflects post-war ambivalence about alternative sexuality? Red River ends with an embrace between John Wayne and Montgomery Clift, while Joanne Dru, the female whom they have both spurned, scolds them. This is a departure from the book the film is based on. In the book, Clift gets the girl when Wayne dies. In the movie, the boys get each other."
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So what's the gayest cowboy movie ever made? Most experts offer up "Red River" (1948) and the strange, passionate love-hate thing between John Wayne and Montgomery Clift. It's now known that Clift was gay, and that colors the way in which his twisted dance with the Duke is seen. On the evidence of the film itself, it probably didn't occur to many people in 1948, which for all its intensity, feels more Oedipal than homosexual. It's a drama of generational usurpation as second-in-command Clift leads a coup against the insane Wayne; the latter recovers his wits but can't be shed of his anger, and he tracks the boy down and the two have an epic punch-out.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/23/AR2005122300323.html

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In my opinion, it is pretty clear that they care for each other in a familial, father-son way.

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This film was about the blazing of the Chisholm Trail for cattle distribution and about American winner take all big business, only here on horseback. Wayne's character cared mostly about the empire HE BUILT. The relationship with his adopted son stemmed from that obsession. If there was no empire their relationship would have vary different.

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There was nothing gay in it at all.

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"those movies which are so stridently heterosexual that they raise doubt about what is really going on"

They only raise doubt to people who are looking for things that aren't there.

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I tend to agree. Seems like the OP is projecting a bit here. I thought the film made it clear that John Wayne was Clift's father figure and he literally says he taught him everything he knew for the past 14 years. If Wayne's character was gay why would he be so devastated when the love of his life died soon after he gave his mothers bracelet to her? Wayne's character seemed damn proud of Clift finding such an incredible woman to marry just like any father would.

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Those who want to see gay everywhere will see gay everywhere. There's no point in trying to reason with them.

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You never saw Broke Back Mountain?

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