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question about the end (yes: spoilers)


Sorry to start a thread that is not exactly interesting, so I beg you be patient and solve my doubt.

When seeing the film (at home, on tv) I got three phonecalls and the last one finally spoiled the end for me. Or should I say unspoiled, because now all I know is that Stefan went away on a horsecart. I can´t believe my bad luck...

Now I don´t know exactly how it ends. Could it be A) He goes back for drinks with his mates. B) He goes to the funeral. C) He goes to a duel. D) We simply don´t know where he goes. E) ??

I´ll b waiting for the answer of whoever is so kind to just tell me the end, ridiculous as it may seem. Pls don´t tell me off for not having disconnected the phone. Even if you´re right!

Thank you again.




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C) He goes to a duel against Lisa's husband

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Thank you!

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It takes him all night to read Lisa's letter. He sees in a post-script supplied by the hospital that she and their son have died of typhus. His servant comes in to wake him just before dawn. He realizes that it is too late to have run away and accepts his fate. He leaves in his carriage to fight a duel that he will probably lose.

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How on earth does anyone know who he is meeting for the duel. Where did it give it away that it's Lisa's husband that he is meeting??

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In the morning when Stefan's carriage comes, another carriage is behind and inside the audience sees that it is Lisa's husband. About 5 or 6 minutes before the end.


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It is a bore sitting through a two hour movie when you have zero regard for the two lead characters. i.e. The lowlife narcissism & tripe of Stefan and the dopey insipidity and passive cruelty of Lisa. Frankly, I couldn't care less what happened to those two twits. Any sympathies were reserved for their victims: Lisa's husband and child. Still, the ending ALMOST made it worth it. If only Stefan's fate had not been left to the imagination. A gip.

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Well, it was only 86 minutes but I felt the same way about Stefan & Lisa. I spent the entire film wanting to shake Joan Fontaine out of her stupor. However, she did look really beautiful in the outfit she wore to the opera. Other than that--basically a waste of time. I'm disappointed but there was really nothing else on and I'd never seen it before. I was not moved by this stupid love story.

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"Well, it was only 86 minutes but I felt the same way about Stefan & Lisa."

Me, three. In fact, I know it was only 86 minutes because I found myself glancing repeatedly at my watch.

"I spent the entire film wanting to shake Joan Fontaine out of her stupor."

I spent the entire film thinking how today Joan Fontaine's character would be considered a stalker, if not a "deranged fan".

"However, she did look really beautiful in the outfit she wore to the opera."

Agreed.

"Other than that--basically a waste of time."

Agree, except I really enjoyed the chance to hear Un sospiro over and over again and thought it was well-integrated into the score.

"I'm disappointed but there was really nothing else on and I'd never seen it before. I was not moved by this stupid love story."

I'm also disappointed and had never seen it before. I found Lisa and Stefan very unsympathetic characters.

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mary mary why ya buggin'?

I wonder where some of your delusions on this film come from. Are you some uber-Catholic who believes married couples should always stay together even if there isn't really love in the marriage? Let's stay together for the kid...who doesn't even think of her husband as his father. While you're at it, you might wanna skip Garbo in Anna Karenina. You seem to be painting the husband as the poor wronged victim, but let's face it, he knew what he was getting into. Rare at the time or not, I don't see how he's so 'honorable' for raising another man's son so he can get with her mom. He may have been a good father to the son, but he knew his wife was like this and obsessed with this other man when he married her. Yes, she has some issues, but if she's a flake, what exactly is he? If you're going to condemn both of the leads, throw the husband into the pot too.

I don't think we're meant to really feel sympathy for the playboy musician with his numerous dalliances and his forgetfulness. Others in this topic already touched upon that. We really don't need to see Stefan's fate as it is pretty obvious: Duel between a career military officer and a has-been playboy musician, who do you think will win? I believe the term you were looking for is 'gyp' as a derogatory reference to 'gypsies' ripping people off.

The thing that annoyed me in the last 20 minutes of this film was *spoilers* the nature of the deaths of not just Lisa or not just her son, but BOTH of them who need to die in the film to give Stefan a slap in the face when he's done reading. I'm used to tragic deaths in movies romances, but I thought the method of killing them as a bit cheap. They catch typhus because some incompetent railroad workers forget to quarantine off that train car immediately after they know someone died in that car. The messages the film seems to be telling the audience are: 'Railroad workers are careless, incompetent morons' and 'don't ride trains', oh and possibly 'butlers probably shouldn't keep their forgetful employers in the dark'.

Overall, I liked the movie. I've also enjoyed The Earrings of Madame de..., La Ronde and Lola Montes. Ophuls doesn't have a movie in my top 100 yet, but 4/4 good movies is a pretty good track record so far. I need to get around to Le Plaisir still as well as the others.

If you want to talk movies where characters do frustratingly stupid things, there's always "Jules and Jim", which annoyed me to no end, though I had liked Jeanne Moreau in "Elevator to the Gallows".

P.S. Ballet history aside, you also seem to have mis-interpreted some things in The Red Shoes elsewhere.

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After posting here, I read Stefan Zweig's story on which this movie is based. I'd heard of Zweig, of course, but hadn't read anything by him. I loved the story, I loved the way he used language (even though I read the story in translation, I got the sense of how he uses words as a torrent to express the girl's passion).

What failed to work for me in the movie, worked beautifully for me in the story. Wow, what a writer.

I also saw the movie, Burning Secret, based on the Zweig work of the same name. I really like that movie and am looking forward to reading that story, too.

"The night was sultry."

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