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Maybe Jack Webb was not such an original thinker


I've always heard that Jack Webb was working on a film where Marty Wynn was the technical advisor and that the film was a traditional Hollywood film noir. Wynn expressed his frustration that Hollywood never made realistic films and from that Webb got the idea for Dragnet.

Well, this is that film and it's hardly a typical film noir of the 1940's, like The Big Sleep or Murder My Sweet. Instead it's the original police procedural and a clear blueprint for Dragnet, right down to the "This Is the City" type opening, (which doesn't use that phrase), the names being changed to protect the innocent, the terse dialog, the restrained acting style, etc. Webb is in this but none of those things is his idea. He's just an actor here.

I give him credit for recognizing something that was unique and perfecting it, but it's clear from this movie that what became Dragnet was hardly his idea to begin with.

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I think it's great that a job as an actor inspired the rest of Webb's career. I get a great kick out of watching him as the tech guy and wondering when the light bulb came over his head. Good for Jack!




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I also panicked a bit at all the similarities, and turned this up:

According to one source*, real cop Wynn did meet Webb on this shoot, but resented not this film's script but Webb himself, because of Webb's portrayal of a cop-baiting nasty in a popular...and highly unrealistic...crime-drama radio program of the day. Wynn basically told Webb, 'look, fella, if you want to make an accurate radio show, I can get you the case files to dozens of real criminal investigations.' Webb initially passed...he's quoted as writing that 'I almost missed the boat'...but the idea later resurfaced to influence Dragnet. (IMDB's trivia factoid oversimplifies this.)

Still, credit where it's due, as Webb's later take, it seems to me, ramped up the technical aspects of the procedural (using far more police terminology than what's found here) and took terseness to a whole new stylistic extreme.

(And I love his performance here...a sort of Joe Friday meets Dobie Gillis.)

*from "My Name's Friday: The Unauthorized but True Story of Dragnet & The Films of Jack Webb", by Michael Hayde & an intro by Harry Morgan (it's in searchable form over at Amazon.)

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"Joe Friday meets Dobie Gillis"

Imlac, what a perfect description of the enthusiasm Jack brought to this role.





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Wasn't Dragnet already on the radio?

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No, Dragnet didn't debut on the radio until June 1949.

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The word "dragnet" is even heard twice within the film's first 15 minutes. Once in narration and also in a line of dialogue from Roy Roberts.

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It's clearly a template for Dragnet, but the semidocumentary genre started a few years earlier with movies like "T-Men" and "The House on 92nd Street."

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Yr right about the semidoc genre starting earlier. But, for me, this is the first 'Dragnet'. Or if you like, the proto- or Ur- Dragnet.

Webb did add something tho; for the TV version, endless shots of 'ping-pong' dialogue - switching back and forth from close up to close up with each line spoken. This was because the small screen of early TV made close ups the most effective shot and it added to the contentration and intensity of the show. Not a bad mood for a detective/police drama.

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But, for me, this is the first 'Dragnet'.
I started watching the movie not even aware of the Jack Webb connection, immediately thinking of Dragnet after the first 15 minutes and then the man shows up on the screen himself.🐭

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